A NFPA 13 owner's certificate with additional clarifications and statements will assist the design professional and sprinkler designer to ensure the owner receives what he needs for the specific installation and provide a basis of design.
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 11:46 AM Josh McDonald via Sprinklerforum < [email protected]> wrote: > It is important to inquire about the actual intended use of the facility. > A few scenarios have come up that are similar in description to the hazard > that you have only to find out after the installation that it is rented out > for events on off-hours to be regularly filled up with bounce houses, food > trucks, or other hazards that may need to be considered upon hazard > analysis. Though it is not possible to predict the owner's intent or all > of the possibilities the increase of plastic may need to be considered upon > hazard analysis. > > The above is my opinion and has not been processed as a formal > interpretation in accordance with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee > Projects. This is provided with the understanding that the AFSA assumes no > liability for this opinion or actions taken on it and they are not to be > considered the official position of the NFPA or its technical committees. > AFSA cannot provide design or consulting engineering services, and this > opinion should therefore not be considered, nor relied upon, as such. > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:17 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Take it a step farther. You need to look at all the various areas within > > the building. For multi-use buildings, you can have various levels of > > hazards under one roof. This is one reason why you can't use the annex > as > > an end-all of occupancies. > > > > > > > > Tall, open areas need to be looked at differently than standard height > > 8-10 ft areas. > > > > > > > > Look at your sprinkler listings. A sprinkler Listed for LH may have a > > ceiling height limitation. > > > > > > > > Don't ya just love the wild and wooly world of fire protection? 😊 > > > > > > > > Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | > > [email protected] | www.jacobs.com > > > > 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 > > > > CONTACT BY: email or MS TEAMS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On > > Behalf Of Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum > > Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 8:58 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Bob Caputo <[email protected]>; [email protected] > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE > > > > > > > > Not in my opinion. We should always look at the definitions for each > > occupancy classification as opposed to the list in the annex. These > > facilities have a lot of plastics and combustibles that exceed the > > definition of light hazard and they are of heights exceeding 8 ft so OH1 > is > > probably not adequate. > > > > > > > > When I look at the foam in landing pits of gymnasiums or even the > > bleachers, I'd have a hard time seeing a simple gymnasium as light > hazard. > > > > > > > > This is a personal opinion. > > > > > > > > Bob Caputo, CFPS > > > > President > > > > American Fire Sprinkler Association > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of > > tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum > > > > Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 7:44 AM > > > > To: [email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]> > > > > Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Subject: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE > > > > > > > > NFPA does not define Field houses. > > > > > > > > Indoor Track, Basketball Courts, Tennis Courts and Climbing Wall. The new > > building will be 37'-0 high to the peak of a flat roof. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it be safe to use Light Hazard Occupancy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > G. Tim Stone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. 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