What John said. On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 6:11 PM Tom Duross via Sprinklerforum < [email protected]> wrote:
> Doing some commissioning work on a new one for New Balance here in > Boston. Building shaped like a peanut, curved walls and roof. Almost > every space is OH2, large sprinkler loads, half the place is K=8 heads. 10 > stairways, some only between 2 floors. Large movable wooden track, > protection over and below. 55' ceiling above track. Point is.. The other > buildings on this site which have Celtic and Bruins practice spaces we did > a few years ago have a ton of open areas all used as storage of some really > interesting stuff. How about 30' of pads in a portable rack. Retractable > wooden bleachers never planned for. They have these 2 small electric > forklifts to pile mats up 20' to the limit. New one both levels of garage > are filled with boxes of stuff going in. You name it. I think this > particular type of building is one I would take a longer look at. Seems > every room labeled a multi-purpose will become storage (full or part time) > as well as the adjacent open areas. Serious loading and beyond what a > vanilla modelling might predict. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2022 9:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL <[email protected]>; Bob Caputo < > [email protected]>; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE > > Take it a step farther. You need to look at all the various areas within > the building. For multi-use buildings, you can have various levels of > hazards under one roof. This is one reason why you can't use the annex as > an end-all of occupancies. > > > > Tall, open areas need to be looked at differently than standard height > 8-10 ft areas. > > > > Look at your sprinkler listings. A sprinkler Listed for LH may have a > ceiling height limitation. > > > > Don't ya just love the wild and wooly world of fire protection? 😊 > > > > Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | > [email protected] | www.jacobs.com > > 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 > > CONTACT BY: email or MS TEAMS > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 8:58 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Bob Caputo <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE > > > > Not in my opinion. We should always look at the definitions for each > occupancy classification as opposed to the list in the annex. These > facilities have a lot of plastics and combustibles that exceed the > definition of light hazard and they are of heights exceeding 8 ft so OH1 is > probably not adequate. > > > > When I look at the foam in landing pits of gymnasiums or even the > bleachers, I'd have a hard time seeing a simple gymnasium as light hazard. > > > > This is a personal opinion. > > > > Bob Caputo, CFPS > > President > > American Fire Sprinkler Association > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of > tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum > > Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 7:44 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE > > > > NFPA does not define Field houses. > > > > Indoor Track, Basketball Courts, Tennis Courts and Climbing Wall. The new > building will be 37'-0 high to the peak of a flat roof. > > > > > > > > Would it be safe to use Light Hazard Occupancy? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > G. Tim Stone > > > > > > > > G. 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