25.1.3.2* In-Rack Sprinkler System Control Valves.
A.25.1.3.2 In-rack sprinklers and ceiling sprinklers selected for
protection should be controlled
by at least two separate indicating valves and drains. In higher rack
arrangements,
consideration should be given to providing more than one in-rack control
valve to limit the
extent of any single impairment.




*The control valves addressed in 25.1.3.2 are intended to allow isolation
of the in-rack system from the ceilingsystem, as indicated in Exhibit 25.1.
In-rack sprinklers are susceptible to damage due to their location.Control
valves are required to allow the ceiling system to remain in service while
an in-rack sprinkler isreplaced. Additionally, when the ceiling system is
out of service, the valves are to be arranged so that thein-rack system
remains operational.*
25.1.3.2.1 Unless the requirements of 25.1.3.2.2 or 25.1.3.2.3 are met,
separate indicating
control valves and drains shall be provided and arranged so that ceiling
and in-rack sprinkler
systems can be controlled independently.


*Sprinklers and sprinkler piping installed in pallet racks are more likely
to experience damage from forkliftsor other material-handling equipment.
Providing a separate control valve allows the piping to be shutdown quickly
without impairing ceiling-level protection for the entire area of the
building.*


I will be away from the office on Friday August 16th and will have limited
access to phone and email.


Thanks



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On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 5:25 PM Hinson, Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not exactly what you are looking for but take a peak at NFPA 13 (2022)
> Section 19.3.3.3 regarding water curtains.  As long as you include, *and
> balance*, the additional demand in your calculations, it is my opinion
> that you should be fine.
>
>
>
> I recall back in the day we used to do this. I looked in NFPA 13 (*2007*)
> Section 22.8 and found the following:
>
>
>
>                *22.8 In-Rack Sprinklers.*
>
>
>
> *22.8.1*
>
> * Pipes to in-rack sprinklers shall be sized by hydraulic calculations. *
>
> *22.8.2** Water demand of sprinklers installed in racks shall be added to
> ceiling sprinkler water demand over the same protected area at the point of
> connection.*
>
>
>
> *22.8.3** The demand shall be balanced to the higher pressure.*
>
>
>
> *22.8.4** Water demand of sprinklers installed in racks or water curtains
> shall be added to the ceiling sprinkler water demand at the point of
> connection. Demands shall be balanced to the higher pressure. (See Chapter
> 8.)*
>
>
>
> I believe the reference to Chapter 8 was incorrect and should have instead
> been to Chapter 11.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
>
> *Ryan L. Hinson**, PE*, SET***  \  Burns & McDonnell
>
> Associate Fire Protection Engineer \ Upper Midwest Region
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout
>
>
>
> *From:* James Crawford <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2024 5:26 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] In-Rack system connected to an adjacent system
>
>
>
> A question has been asked in our office regarding connecting an in-rack
> system into an adjacent roof system.
>
>
>
> It is in a multi-tenant building that has multiple roof zones, the system
> only has 11 heads but does not work when connected into the roof system in
> that tenant space.
>
>
>
> Option is to run 500 feet back to the valve room or connect into an
> adjacent roof system.
>
>
>
> We can not find anything that says you can’t but cannot find anything that
> says you can.
>
>
>
> My concern would be monitoring of the zones, so you would have multiple
> zones going off if there was a fire.
>
>
>
> Comments:
>
>
>
> Thank You
>
>
>
> James Crawford
>
> Phaser Fire Protection Ltd.
>
> Phone 604-888-0318
>
> Cel: 604-790-0938
>
> Email [email protected]
>
> Web: www.phaserfire.ca
>
>
>
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