Mike:

Our firm has used LIDAR scans on several projects, including one where we were 
prime for the design of retrofit systems in 3 buildings from the early 20th 
century.  Absent as-builts, we scanned all three, including the combustible 
concealed spaces.  For that one, we were able to create as-builts that have 
proven to be very accurate.  These scans can be a godsend but:

1.  This process (done right) is very, very expensive.
2.  The raw data file is a PCD (Point Cloud Data).  They are huge and need to 
be converted.
3.  The easiest conversion is to Revit.  You have to keep going down the format 
food chain to get to DWG.   This works for us because +80% of our work is in 
Revit, so we’re used to the huge files and experienced at working on and off 
“the cloud”.
4.  The process is very, very, very expensive.   When done right.

Steve L.


From: Mike Stossel <m...@knssprinkler.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2025 12:20 PM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Add and Relocate Projects

Our company is having a difficult time getting accurate piping layouts from our 
clients when doing add and relocate projects of varying sizes.  I was wondering 
if anyone has tried scanning the existing systems and if so, what scanner setup 
are you using.  I have looked at Faro and a couple other brands, but it looks 
very labor intensive to get the scan and assemble it into a usable model.

Thank,

Mike Stossel SET
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