Hello!

This is my first time posting, I’ll try to keep it short.


We have a project with a new customer where the water authority is requiring a 
backflow preventer on the suction side of an existing fire pump. We want to 
confirm the proper approach due to potential hydraulic concerns.

  *   Building height: 130 ft
  *   System type:  Wet pipe sprinkler and standpipe
     *   Stair Tower 1: Class III combined automatic standpipe
     *   Stair Tower 2: Automatic Class III standpipe
     *   Standpipe flow requirements - 65 psi at 750 gpm (System installed 1975)


  *   Fire pump: 70 psi at 750 GPM, city main supply
  *   Hydrant flow test not performed, assuming static pressure at street 
around 75 psi.
  *   No standpipe flow information. I recommended a standpipe flow test to be 
performed for documentation purposes.



Existing Suction Piping

  *   4” × 6” concentric reducer at pump suction flange, recommended 
replacement with 4” × 6” eccentric reducer
  *   1975 water meter to be removed during backflow installation. Couldn’t 
find data sheets on this water meter to determine friction loss at system 
demand.



Pump Test Data


Flow

Suction Pressure

Discharge Pressure

Churn

75 psi

155 psi

100% (750 GPM)

45 psi

110 psi

150% (1125 GPM)

5 psi

50 psi


Sprinkler system demand: 268 GPM at 68 psi

  *   Light Hazard
  *   Apartments



Concern

  *   At 150% flow, suction is already 5 psi without a backflow preventer.
  *   Adding a backflow preventer with additional fittings will introduce 
friction loss and will pull city main below zero during high demand.
  *   Preliminary calculations indicate the standpipe may not achieve 65 psi 
residual at 750 GPM; (System installed 1975), verification pending a standpipe 
flow test.


Questions

  1.  If testing confirms the standpipe cannot achieve 65 psi at 750 GPM, what 
is the recommended course of action?
  2.  How should we address the requirement for a backflow preventer when pump 
suction is already low at 150% flow?
  3.  Are there alternative design approaches to meet the water authority’s 
requirement while maintaining proper pump operation?
  4.  Water authority wants the backflow detector assembly on the suction side 
of the pump.





Thank you for any guidance.




Thank You,

Brett Barrall
Fire Sprinkler Designer
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