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Calculating Sprinklers Above and Below Cloud Ceilings



You have asked the following question: “I have complete floor coverage using 
standard coverage sprinkler protection at the roof deck of a light hazard 
occupancy. There are ceiling clouds below that complete floor coverage as well 
using extended coverage sprinklers with flex drops. I am not omitting any 
sprinklers by using NFPA 13 Section 8.15.24. I have provided a calculation for 
each of the areas (one for above sprinklers and one for below sprinklers). The 
AHJ has demanded I include all of the sprinklers in a single calculation. Is 
there any rule in NFPA 13 that allows me to only provide calculations to the 
most demanding area, especially when I am not omitting any sprinklers above or 
below, because each compliment of sprinklers would fully cover the floor area 
by themselves?” In response to your question, we have reviewed NFPA 13, 2016 
edition as the applicable standard. Our informal interpretation is the 
calculation is required to include only the sprinklers at the actual ceiling.

The AHJ might be referencing Section 23.4.4.6.4 in this situation, but it isn’t 
applicable. This section tells us when sprinklers are installed above and below 
a ceiling from a common supply, the calculation shall be done for the largest 
water demand. This is because each area is a separate compartment and it’s 
confirming that the calculation only addresses one compartment (the most 
demanding). But, this is not two ceilings, so Section 23.4.4.6.4 is not 
applicable. This is a ceiling (at the upper roof deck) with multiple large 
obstructions (the floating clouds). There is the case (your referenced Section 
8.15.24 – Cloud Ceilings) where the collection of obstructions comply with 
multiple restrictions and can be treated as a ceiling. But, as you already 
stated, that only addresses whether or not sprinklers can be omitted from the 
upper deck.

When we complete hydraulic calculations, we are looking for how many sprinklers 
are likely to open in a single fire event with a safety factor. Research shows 
us a single fire event is commonly controlled by three to four sprinklers 
activating, not all the sprinklers within a design area. It is also known when 
sprinklers are installed above and below an obstruction typically both 
sprinklers will not activate dependent on different factors. This is explicitly 
addressed by Section 23.4.4.7.3 which states: “The requirements of 23.4.4.7.1.1 
to include every sprinkler in the design area shall not apply where sprinklers 
are provided above and below obstructions such as wide ducts or tables.” This 
is further clarified by Section 23.4.4.7.3.1 which states: “Sprinklers under 
the obstruction shall not be required to be included in the hydraulic 
calculation of the ceiling sprinklers.” There is a caveat to the preceding 
guidance on not including sprinklers beneath an obstruction in the calculation. 
Although very poorly written, the intent of Section 23.4.4.7.3.2 is readily 
understood. It states: “Where the piping to sprinklers under obstructions 
follows the same sizing pattern as the branch lines, no additional hydraulic 
calculations shall be required for sprinklers under obstructions.” This is also 
discussed in the NFPA 13 Handbook commentary for Section 23.4.4.7.3.1 where it 
states: “When spray sprinklers or CMSA sprinklers, which are covered in 
23.4.4.6.3, are being used and sprinklers are installed both above and below 
obstructions, all sprinklers above and below the obstructions are unlikely to 
open. Rather than force the user to calculate both sets of sprinklers 
simultaneously, the user is directed to prove the most demanding situation with 
calculations. In most cases, ceiling sprinklers will represent the greatest 
demand.” Then the commentary for Section 23.4.4.7.3.2 furthers this 
clarification by stating: “This requirement clarifies that as long as the pipe 
sizing under the obstruction is the same as the branch lines, the sprinklers 
under the obstruction will not be more demanding because of the increased 
elevation head dropping down under the obstruction.” The intent of Section 
23.4.4.7.3.2 is not to require the pipe size for the drop below the obstruction 
to be the same size as the branch line immediately above the location. It is 
meant to be at least as large as the smallest pipe size for the number 
sprinklers on the drop (aka the end of the branch line). It would make no sense 
to require larger pipe for the drop further upstream where the available 
pressure is greater.

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