OK, thanks, Carlos.

DN

On 14/08/2012, at 11:59 PM, Carlos Córdoba <[email protected]> wrote:

> David, if you check the option "Start an IPython kernel at startup", Spyder 
> will also open an IPython interpreter automatically, which is connected to 
> that kernel. The option "Open an IPython interpreter at startup" is grayed 
> out because it only works for IPython 0.10.
> 
> I think things are a bit confusing if you don't know how IPython works. The 
> kernel is the process in charge of running python code, and the interpreter 
> (or client or frontend) is just the interface from which that code is sent.
> 
> We need to start a kernel inside the external console (as opposed to doing it 
> as a background job) because that's the only way to connect it with our 
> Variable Explorer and Object Inspector.
> 
> Hope this clarifies things for you,
> Carlos
> 
> El 13/08/12 18:11, David Nicholls escribió:
>> Maybe I didn't express myself clearly, iPython works fine in the console, 
>> and I use it all the time, but I just can't tell Spyder to run an iPython 
>> interpreter at startup, I have to start it manually from the Console 
>> controls.
>> 
>> DN
>> 
>> On 14/08/2012, at 2:37 AM, Pierre Raybaut <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well then I've already answered in a way: if you want IPython support
>>> in Spyder's console, you must downgrade your IPython installation to
>>> v0.10.
>>> 
>>> -Pierre
>>> 
>>> Le 13 août 2012 à 14:35, David Nicholls <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Yes, I can "start up an iPython kernel" OK, but I wanted to open an 
>>>> iPython interpreter on start up, and it's the latter preference that's 
>>>> greyed out. (This happens on two different Spyder 2.1.11 installations one 
>>>> using iPython 0.13, the other iPython 0.12.1)
>>>> 
>>>> The reason I want the interpreter, not the kernel, is that Matplotlib 
>>>> graphics are displayed inline in the console with an iPython interpreter, 
>>>> and I want the extra interactive controls that a separate Matplotlib 
>>>> window allows.
>>>> 
>>>> DN
>>>> 
>>>> On 13/08/2012, at 8:20 PM, Pierre Raybaut <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've just checked with Spyder v2.1.11, in Preferences > Console >
>>>>> Advanced settings, you may check "Start an IPython kernel at startup"
>>>>> for IPython 0.12+ and "Open an IPython interpreter at startup" for
>>>>> IPython 0.10.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if you are using IPython v0.11, you'll have to upgrade to v0.12.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Pierre
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2012/8/12 David Nicholls <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> I'm using Spyder 2.1.11 and it does behave as you say.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> iPython works, it's just not possible to start automatically with an 
>>>>>> iPython interpreter in the Console window.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In v2.2, will opening an iPython window in the Console at startup be 
>>>>>> possible?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> DN
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/08/2012, at 9:17 PM, Pierre Raybaut <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What version of Spyder are you using?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Full support of IPython 0.11-0.13 is already implemented in Spyder
>>>>>>> v2.1.11 and v2.2.0dev (latest revision of default repository), but not
>>>>>>> through Spyder's console plugin:
>>>>>>> * v2.1: you have to open a new IPython kernel via the console plugin
>>>>>>> menu and then an IPython frontend is opened automatically as a
>>>>>>> separate dockwidget (there is an option to open a new kernel at
>>>>>>> startup, that's what you are asking for)
>>>>>>> * v2.2: a plugin dedicated to IPython 0.11+ has been implemented, the
>>>>>>> "IPython console" plugin (there is an option to open an IPython
>>>>>>> console at startup too)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> -Pierre
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 12 août 2012 à 02:49, David Nicholls <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No answer yet, so I thought I'd add the following.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I mouse over the greyed-out preferences option, it says "This 
>>>>>>>> option is not available for iPython versions which are not fully 
>>>>>>>> supported through Spyder's console (i.e. iPython v0.11+)"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Since we're now at least at iPython v0.13, this seems like quite a gap 
>>>>>>>> in Spyder's capability.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The reason for both Spyder and iPython is to make the whole process 
>>>>>>>> more efficient, and both do this very well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Will there be proper iPython integration into the Spyder console?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DN
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2012, at 11:01 AM, David Nicholls <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I invariably use the iPython interpreter, and I'd like it to start up 
>>>>>>>>> immediately I open Spyder.  The prefs has a check box titled "Open an 
>>>>>>>>> iPython interpreter at startup" but it is greyed out.  How do I fix 
>>>>>>>>> this?  (using the latest Macports Spyder).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> DN
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