<https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-np838o0q8yE/VMiZuzJ8zYI/AAAAAAAC4T8/MXQ0VymzJ_8/s1600/Canopy_OSX_mayavi-600x367.jpg>
<https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u-DN7dhVmiY/VMiZrspah5I/AAAAAAAC4T0/i_cTdQrwRu4/s1600/Canopy_OSX_mayavi-600x367.jpg> Thanks for sharing *I know all this are personal opinions but I ask for you to look at Spyder through the eyes of a new user, not a developer,* *not a hacker, not an old time user.* *@Ronan:* do you think that you can break your lines manually when they reach here? it makes it easier to read directly in the email. Also on laptops and small screens reading full lines of text is very uncomfortable, it feels like trolling ;-). In my first porst with all those bullets I did it wrong, sorry for that! To the issues raised *Object Inspector* It can become a help center, but it cannot be a replacement for something like the linuxshortcut screen you get by pressing windows key... it is a simple big but pleasing summary. In the object inspector (OI) you would need to scroll down and look for it, they OI should remain small and occupying 1/4 of screen size And yes I agree with Ronan, it used to be super fast and now is not by default connected and is very slow, was this slowness the actual reason for disabling the direct connection to the editor in the first place? Can we make it fast again? *Fixed shortcuts*I also feel uneasy about this *Ribbon / Toolbars* Yes a ribbon is way bigger but if you double click on it, it disappears, anyway.... I say we could make the toolbars smaller like R studio, they are tiny and non intrusive. In the meantime we can hide global and debug as default :), to make a smooth transition. *Start Page* Yes the idea is to have it only for first time runs and first time runs after an update. If you just started spyder, we can welcome the new user and give some advice from the start, and give the option to select a look, if you are an old time user you can get the default look that is loaded, or you can start simple and clean, editor and console. When starting with a new version we can raise the attention of the user to new features. Think of canopy start screen, ignoring the package manager and that http://blog.enthought.com/wp-content/uploads/Canopy_OSX_mayavi-600x367.jpg Random thought: we could even allow for log in capabilities, where you could have your defaults stored online and synced... (ala firefox...) *Overall comments* I am not sure what most people use Spyder like that is why I try to imagine as a beginner (we all were beginners at some point). I guess Carlos (and some other people with Spyder for a long time) has a better feel on use case but still..., can we start collecting information on what people click and process this info to see how people actually use spyder? Would this be to intrusive for the privacy concerned? If most people do not use a feature maybe it should be gracefully removed... like menu dockwidgets? I never use those! I read somewhere something about Marissa Mayer <http://www.fastcodesign.com/3041374/3-rules-of-app-design-according-to-yahoos-marissa-mayer>, and I like the two tap (click) rule, User needs of most users should be handled in less than 2 clicks ;), with thi in mind, the Spyder tutorial fails... the index has to many subindices before you actually see some content Cheers :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
