This thread is starting to split. Although the current theme is M$ vs.
> Everyone else.
> With regards to browsers, they both have their points, with; yes Moz being
> very cross platform, although Explorer is available on some Unix platforms.
>
> Other Linux brosers for browsers sake are just appaling. Trust me I work
> with Linux/BSD daily, and in general much prefer IE over everything else,
> even the hallowed Opera.
>
> However for sheer software power, Mozilla isn't a patch on IE. Pureley
> because it is fundamental to the Windows Shell.
> The number and veriety of technologies under the umbrella of IE is just
> overwhelming, to the point where it isn't just a browser but the core UI to
> interface with the Namespace, with yet hosts more things available.
>
> It truly is the glue which holds together many of the divergent aspects of
> windows: if COM is the theory then IE is the implementations.
>
>
> but .NET ...
>
> now that is impressive. but first before I get to it I have to make a breif
> passing at COM.
>
> For those in the unix world who hold the development technologies available
> for things such as corba and gcc king, really should get to grips with COM
> at the very least.
>
> It isn't and never has been platform-bound, in fact is a binary standard.
> Solaris being one of the original platforms that it was developed on.
>
> Solaris was used because that is what most of windows has been developed
> on.
>
> If you don't believe me upon the wonders and magnificence of COM, then I
> suggest that you try and get your hands upon "Inside OLE 2nd Edition".
>
> ... but onto .NET
>
> After checking out COM, you may be wondering how it is possible to improve
> upon it, but the boys at Redmond have done it.
>
> These things microsoft produce are not itty bitty bug laden bits'n'pieces.
> They are programmers is a different league from us mere mortal ASM and C
> boys.
>
>
> All in All I would summarise by saying that it's not microsoft making poor
> quality products, but rather, the infrastructure they produce is SOO good
> that otehr programmers get lazy and just end up producing nasty bloated
> code.
>
> The benefit of Linux is that by being so raw (relatively speaking) it means
> that people have to learn to be good as its inherent in the society of
> Linux.
>
> My 2c
>
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This is not all true. I worked the last 12 years in Microsoft plataform like 
programmer. I know all the development effort of the Windows plataform since 
Windows 3.0. We got ammazed with some UI design, but poor core inside. This 
is all the true in the Microsoft software. I dont feel less like them.

I can tell you that IE can be anything, but we need realibility, avaliability  
and robustness in every piece of software. This characterisc must be in every 
software. I learned it in the University since 1992 And my teachers told us 
that this are very old basics of the software development! Why the smart BIG 
LEAGUERS dont know this?!!!!!!!!!!!

Innovation?, New Technology?! Ha! Who make the standards? The stupid community 
(as you called us) of academics and free software. Then they take it and 
pattent it! This is the kind of innovation of the big leaguers?

If they are so smart, why they never did a reliable OS? Please check 
http://www.netcraft.com and tell me if the "smart guys are in the top of the 
list in the most reliables servers in the world! Common check it and tell me 
what software this server run! Then you can here to flood us with a Microsoft 
advertisement.

2-Why they have virus problems since 1980? If they are so smart they resolved 
this problem in just a year? The answer is that the "smart" big leaguers 
prgrammers can not did a good OS like the stupids guys. Please tell me how 
many Linux computer are infected every day? You know very well the answer.

3-Why the smart programmers must defrag his hard disk? This problem is very 
know since the day when Mr. Ritchie and Mr. Kerningham wrote the first Unix 
in the world. And this appear like the SMART BIG LEAGUERS PROGRAMMERS never 
studied at the University the fundaments of the OS. Every programmer know 
about that. I learned it in my second year in the university! And the smart 
BIG leaguers can dont reproduce it even in his super Windows NT or the last 
XP! why?

They had a big chance: Build a big new OS from scratch. This is a very nice 
opportunity to make better things. But what we got? You again know the 
answer: Stupid programmers made a OS in the 70's called UNIX and another dumb 
called Linus Trovals and his no-life friends made again a big example of OS. 
Please tell me why?

4-At the last, if you wanna know what the really COM technoligy wants to be. 
Check the sources of the KDE. This is a really technology piece. Tha again 
the smarts guy from the BIG LEAGUE (as you call it) got some enhancements 
that you see in your NEW Windows XP. Please check the OpenFile Dialog box of 
every application and tell me who did it first!

Hehe! Really, the examples are mil. but the only thing I understanded of that 
is that you dont know the good things that th OpenSources made all the times. 
You only se a little part of a big thing.

I encourage you to learn more before try to attack the OpenSource. If you want 
attack us. You must know us.

Some questions:

Do you know from where the windows comes?
Do you know from where the MS SQL Server comes?
Do you know from where the IE comes?

Answer this easy questions and then you will know more about your BIG 
LEAGUERS- For me this BIG LEAGUERS are not programmers. They know very well 
how take the software from another lossers and then telll you that this is 
his innovation! Dont be fooled!

At least dont only browse the MSDN.

Regards,

Antonio Gallardo


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