Michael Bayer wrote:
I dont want novices to go away, i just dont want to impose upon the
whole community that it reorganize and tailor itself completely to suit
the immediate needs of novices, and to discard/dumb down all tools that
are "too complicated". clearly I get pretty frustrated over this one....
I don't think that's what we're suggesting here. SQLAlchemy isn't going to be
"dumbed down" if SQLObject2 is built on top of it.
Am I advocating never creating new projects? Of course not. But do I
think the bar for "are my requirements really so different that I need
to start a new project for them" should be set a lot higher than where
most people seem to have theirs calibrated.
yeah, i dont know, people in the python community all want to do
something "their way". Why does this happen in python and not other
communities? or does it happen in other communities but the effect is
different ?
Yes, it does happen in other communities. I don't think the effect is much
different except that in Python it's so easy to make something work while
leaving some things incomplete. I think this is a testament to the ease of
development and flexibility of Python (for example, you can't monkey-patch
Java...well maybe with AOP).
Im really not sure. but it seems to happen, why not just
let it happen until some winners become apparent ? seems to be
happening already (i.e. the consolidation of "winners").
I think that's what's happening here and we're all saying "Hey, you're both winners,
now let's make it better together!"
but if
everyone wants to write their own thing, theres got to be a reason.
just because someone complains that now they dont know what approach to
use shouldnt mean i should now put away my ideas and defer to the "more
popular" idea.
No, you shouldn't. You should prove that your ideas have value (are better?)
and then provide implementations that work with what's already there rather
than forking the community. The problem is that it's easier to fork than to
integrate.
~ Daniel
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