HD Mail wrote:

Im really not sure. but it seems to happen, why not just let it happen until some winners become apparent ? seems to be happening already (i.e. the consolidation of "winners").

I think that's what's happening here and we're all saying "Hey, you're both winners, now let's make it better together!"

How can you say this when "SO" is being EOL and SO2 apparently is going to solve all its problems (sorry i don't know much about SO2 so this statement might be inappropriate). I would not call that a winner. SA is a "winner" and if you can't see that, well go use SO or SO2. winner + winner does not equal 2*winner. it might mean (winner + winner)/ 2

Uhh, may I respectfully disagree. First, SQLAlchemy isn't going to lose 
anything by having SQLObject built on top of it. But by your logic ((winner + 
winner) / 2) one of the two projects gets pulled down closer to the level of 
the other (whichever one is better becomes worse). I don't think this will 
happen unless combining the two projects adds so much confusion to the mix that 
the combination ends up being worse than one of the projects alone (not likely 
since the SO layer is not required to make the SA layer work).

What features in SO is it that people want that SA can't handle. I don't get this push for consolidation.


SQLObject is much simpler to configure (a lot less code) than SQLAlchemy (maybe 
ActiveMapper will change this?). The main feature I liked about SO was the fact 
that the domain object class contained all table and mapper information, which 
is a big advantage in a lot of cases. It's easier to manage because I don't 
have to keep scrolling back and forth between my table/mapper/class definition 
to see all the parts of my domain object. SA requires a lot more typing and a 
lot more scrolling around to see what you've got.

~ Daniel


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