is it possible for you to show us what youre doing ? I can come up with solutions a lot better if i see an actual use case.

On Mar 29, 2006, at 2:44 AM, Florian Boesch wrote:

So since I don't know which objects might be updated, I clear them all?

Quoting Michael Bayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Florian Boesch wrote:

Now why would I get so incredibly pissed at this caching issue. Well, it's because Michael to my understanding basically told me in one go that I'm a stupid fuckwitt and that I have no business "sneaking" database updates
past
his mapping code. That ah, did me in for.

wow i never said that at all. i have learned that in these online forum
kind of worlds, you *really* have to read carefully what you are
responding to...especially if youre starting to get emotional. I am a veteran loser-of-cool in online communities, even quite recently to those who saw it happen (not in this forum)....i know all about the "reaction"
phase.

I didnt say you shouldnt use raw SQL; you can totally use raw SQL, but you should also tell the ORM to expire the apporpriate objects if youre doing so, so that it knows those have been changed behind its back. if you are
issuing SQL, you should not expect the ORM to automatically detect
that...and also shouldnt expect the ORM to work in such a way that assumes this technique is being used, since thats not the "default" use case for
it.





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