I actually thought the original question was perfectly clear.  I
thought the proposed solution (included in the original post) was
perfectly logical too.  So what's all the fuss?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:28 AM, P Kishor <punk.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/6/09, Edward J. Yoon <edwardy...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  In more detail, SQLite used for user-based applications (20 million is
>>  the size of app-users). and MySQL used for user location (file path on
>>  NAS) addressing.
>
> Edward,
>
> At least I still don't understand why you have 20 million databases.
> My suspicion is that something is getting lost in the translation
> above, and neither you nor anyone on the list is benefitting from it.
> Could you please make a little more effort at explaining what exactly
> is your problem -- it well might be an "xy problem."
>
> If you really do have 20 million SQLite databases on a NAS, and you
> don't care about changing anything about the situation except for
> improving the speed of access from that NAS, well, since you will
> likely be accessing only one db at a time, perhaps you could copy that
> specific db to a local drive before opening it.
>
> In any case, something tells me that you will get better mileage if
> you construct a good question for the list with enough background
> detail.
>
>
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:31 PM, P Kishor <punk.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > On 1/6/09, Edward J. Yoon <edwardy...@apache.org> wrote:
>>  >> > Do you have 20 million sqlite databases?
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> Yes.
>>  >
>>  > Since all these databases are just files, you should stuff them into a
>>  > Postgres database, then write an application that extracts the
>>  > specific row from the pg database with 20 mil rows giving you your
>>  > specific SQLite database on which you can do your final db work.
>>  >
>>  > Seriously, you need to rethink 20 mil databases as they defeat the
>>  > very purpose of having a database.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jim Dodgen <j...@dodgen.us> wrote:
>>  >>  > I think the question was about the structure of your data
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > a sqlite database is a file and can contain many tables. tables can 
>> contain
>>  >>  > many rows.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Do you have 20 million sqlite databases?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > This information can help people formulate an answer.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Edward J. Yoon 
>> <edwardy...@apache.org>wrote:
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >> Thanks for your reply.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> > That's a lot of files. Or did you mean rows?
>>  >>  >> > Are you sure? There can be many other reasons.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> There is a lot of files. So, I don't know exactly why at this time,
>>  >>  >> But thought network latency can“t be denied.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> /Edward
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Kees Nuyt <k.n...@zonnet.nl> wrote:
>>  >>  >> > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:23:29 +0900, "Edward J. Yoon"
>>  >>  >> > <edwardy...@apache.org> wrote in General Discussion of
>>  >>  >> > SQLite Database <sqlite-users@sqlite.org>:
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> >> Hi, I'm newbie in here.
>>  >>  >> >>
>>  >>  >> >> I'm using SQLite, all data (very huge and 20 million files)
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > That's a lot of files. Or did you mean rows?
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> >> stored on NAS storage. Lately my system has been getting
>>  >>  >> >> progressively slower. Network cost seems too large.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > Are you sure? There can be many other reasons.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> >> To improve its performance, I'm think about local lock file
>>  >>  >> >> instead of NAS as describe below.
>>  >>  >> >>
>>  >>  >> >> char str[1024] = "/tmp";
>>  >>  >> >> strcat(str, lockfile);
>>  >>  >> >> sprintf(str, "%s-lock", zFilename);
>>  >>  >> >>
>>  >>  >> >> But, I'm not sure this is good idea.
>>  >>  >> >> I would love to hear your advice!!
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > I think that's not the right way to start.
>>  >>  >> > This is what I would do, more or less in
>>  >>  >> > this order:
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 1- Optimize the physical database properties
>>  >>  >> >   PRAGMA page_size (read the docss first!)
>>  >>  >> >   PRAGMA [default_]cache_size
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 2- Optimize SQL: use transactions
>>  >>  >> >   where appropriate.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 3- Optimize your code. Don't close database
>>  >>  >> >   connections if they can be reused.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 4- Optimize the schema: create indexes that
>>  >>  >> >   help, leave out indexes that don't help.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 5- Investigate the communication to/from NAS.
>>  >>  >> >   Do all NIC's train at the highest possible speed?
>>  >>  >> >   Some limiting switch or router in between?
>>  >>  >> >   Do you allow jumbo frames?
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 6- Consider SAN/fSCSI, direct attached storage.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > 7- Consider changing SQLite code.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > Without more details on your use case, people will only get
>>  >>  >> > general advice like the above.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> >>Thanks.
>>  >>  >> >
>>  >>  >> > Hope this helps.
>>  >>  >> > --
>>  >>  >> >  (  Kees Nuyt
>>  >>  >> >  )
>>  >>  >> > c[_]
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