thanks for the post and you are right the isp is naff but not easily changable for reasons which would probably bore you to death, anyway things have moved on, wifi is now back but is prone to dropping but the sb is still not setting up, it now says cannot find dhcp server and use a static address but everything i tried still comes back to a problem press left or right to try again also the net mask? is 255.255 when i saw somewhere it should be 255.255.255, 0000 is the gateway number and the sb ip is a 169.xxx number, the annoying thing is this has worked great since july 2005 there must be someone who can explain what is going off and what i need to do, even the slim devices support seem to be struggling, is there no expert out there?
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