gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> MrSinatra is right when he says that NPR is the indirect recipient of
> federal funding.  Local stations all get an annual CPB community service
> grant.  For many stations, that ends up being a fairly hefty portion of
> their annual budget.

and not just federal, but state and local too.  

gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> But the fact that they kick many of those dollars back to NPR for
> programming is in no way contrary to the spirit of the original CPB
> legislation.

i don't see how or why that matters?  does that somehow invalidate my
points or position?

gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> When Congress set up CPB, it wanted to create national programming that
> would counter broadcasting's for-profit 'vast wasteland'.  They did not
> intend it to be all hog-futures reports, all the time.  You can think of
> NPR as a kind of programming production co-operative for CPB funded
> stations.  And it does an excellent job.

in your opinion.  but thats not really the point, is it?  i agree it
had a place, perhaps, once upon a time.  but the landscape is different
now, there are plenty of non-commerical alternatives for people to get
informed.  the idea that taxes must be paid for these media outlets is
simply not true anymore.

gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> Frankly, Terry Gross does a lot more for my brain than Howard Stern.

maybe so, but stern doesn't tax you.  here's the real question
though...

are we saying terry gross couldn't be on the air doing her show without
tax money?  does anyone really believe that?

gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> I worked in public radio for years.  Even though all the stations that I
> worked for (KDAQ, WCAL) were university licensees (i.e. the stations had
> a much larger non-profit as a 'sugar daddy') they were still very
> tightly run ships.  When I jumped to working in the corporate world
> (3M), I saw much more evidence of bloated head-counts and blatant waste.

the big difference of course, is that 3M is a tax payer, not a tax
taker.

if it was inefficient, it could AFFORD to be, and it did so to its own
detriment, not mine, not other taxpayers.

its amazing to me how you supporters seemingly don't care about tax
payer burdens and debts.

btw, maybe those npr franchises are "tightly" run, its possible i
suppose, but how would you know?  there is no metric or standard they
have to meet, no real pressure to lower costs.

wpsu is a big bloated mess.  and i bet a lot of the things i see here
i'd see where you were.  the comparison i always make is an easy one
thats hard for anyone to argue against:

how many engineers does the public station have vs the other commerical
stations in the same market?

i'd be curious to hear your answer on that.  (as well as what years you
worked there)

gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> I think folks here are repeating tired old stereotypes (e.g. NPR's
> audience demographic is the Volvo & Brie set) that just don't conform to
> reality.

au contraire mon fraire!

just look at the arbitrons.  i don't publish them, but they confirm
that this stereotype, (like so many others), is rooted in fact.

it gets even more true when you look at who gives money to NPR.

i mean, who do you think listens to NPR?

gharris999;479733 Wrote: 
> The point of my original post was NOT to denigrate NPR's programming,
> but rather just to explain why you don't see NPR originated network
> streams of those programs.

understood.  i'm not trying to denigrate the pgming either, just
advocate against tax funding it.


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