> 2)    Co-operation    You download porn blacklists from three places.  I have
> my own blacklists [1]  Why can't squidGuard users have a cooperative set
> of blacklists?

I think it would be a good idea to share information, to make our
blacklists available to others.

> Why can't we co-operate and produce a set of *whitelists*
> such that
>       pass whitelists none
> becomes more useful than
>       pass !this !that !theother all

I don't think I can agree with a whitelist. It has been my personal
experience that every time I research something on the net I find new
sites with excellent information.  Many times I'll find the best
information on my current research topic is on a site I've never
visited before.  I'd hate to think that I'd be blocked from the best
information unless someone else in our group had looked up the same
topic *since* this web site was in operation. To me, that would
almost be like trading in the internet for an encyclopedia.

But I am all for sharing what we have.

Rick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of C Falconer
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:07 PM
> To: Rick Matthews
> Cc: Squidguard Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Think you're doing a good job of blocking porn?
>
>
> Honestly?  Complete filtering of the web is impossible.  Theres simply
> too many web sites and too much growth to ever anticipate blocking
> everything that needs blocking.
>
> Theres only two other approaches I see.
> 1)    User education  Teach the users.... somthing.... to make them...
> better and different.... okay thats not really feasable.
>
> 2)    Co-operation    You download porn blacklists from three places.  I have
> my own blacklists [1]  Why can't squidGuard users have a cooperative set
> of blacklists? Why can't we co-operate and produce a set of *whitelists*
> such that
>       pass whitelists none
> becomes more useful than
>       pass !this !that !theother all
>
> What are the thoughts of the list?
>
> Here's my list sizes
>    2216 ad/domains                   336 ad/urls
>    2087 approved/domains              57 approved/urls
>    3793 censorware-evade/domains      12 censorware-evade/urls
>    4277 chat/domains                 332 chat/urls
>    1261 excessive-volume/domains       6 excessive-volume/urls
>     570 games/domains                216 games/urls
>    2270 no-curriculum-content/domains 63 no-curriculum-content/urls
>  160938 pornography/domains        78913 pornography/urls
>       8 translation-proxy/domains      0 translation-proxy/urls
>      98 wares/domains                 31 wares/urls
>    3989 webmail/domains               59 webmail/urls
>  181519 total                      80035 total
>
> [1] more concentrated on webmail and chat sites - girls aren't much into
> porn fortunately.
>
> On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 15:09, Rick Matthews wrote:
> > I *thought* I was...
> >
> > My blacklists are automatically updated each week. Every week I download
> > the blacklists from the squidGuard site:
> > <http://ftp.ost.eltele.no/pub/www/proxy/squidGuard/contrib/blacklists.tar.gz>
> > the adult list from the Universit� of Toulouse:
> > <ftp://ftp.univ-tlse1.fr/pub/reseau/cache/squidguard_contrib/adult.tar.gz>
> > and the adult section from the dmozlists:
> > <http://www.ingrid.org/~harada/filtering/>
> > and combine them with my local updates (over 12,000 of them). After
> > removing duplicates, my porn database is 223,225 domains and
> > 105,561 urls. I also run an expressionlist in my porn destination group
> > and programmatically shut down internet access after midnight.
> >
> > Two days ago I made changes that accidentally removed the midnight
> > cutoff. Last night my son got on the net after everyone went to bed and
> > spent about 90 minutes surfing. I pulled a few squid reports this
> > morning and he spent the entire time looking at porn. Many, *many*
> > megabytes of porn. He was being blocked on about 20 to 25% of his
> > attempts.
> >
> > Here's a list of the sites he visited that were not blocked:
> ...
> > I've got way too much effort in this for a 20% success rate.
> > I'm looking for a commercial solution.
>
>
>

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