> > It's a bit unfair to ask someone to spend time sorting out 
> > a blocklist that works for them into something that works for everyone
else, IMHO...
> 
> i can't force anybody to do that, so why is just asking forbidden?
> What would the world be without standards?
> The goal of the current thread is to have lists reusable by 
> many people, isn't it?

Well, to a point, but the way I read it was that the list in question was
provided "as is". So asking isn't forbidden at all, but you shouldn't be
surprised if nothing happens :-)

> that's not the problem (btw: would you like to make the 
> scripts available to the public?).

Certainly, they're nothing spectacular though. I'll tidy them up and stick
em online.

> The point is i don't want to create a whitlelist for e.g. 
> geocites.com just because there *could* be porn on it.
> And there are many free webspace providers out there... but most
> porn/violence sites have multiple own domains.

Yep, I must admit that in many ways I'm fairly fortunate as in a commercial
environment there's more scope for non-technical measures to reinforce the
blocking. I'm very much looking for the 80% soution with 20% effort...

> > We block webmail during work hours, there's no business 
> > need for it. We have
> 
> maybe, but a school may be the the only source of web access 
> for some of the not-so-rich kids.

Certainly, I was just saying why some people want to block webmail in
response to your original question. An alternative would be to provide
normal email access for the kids, if that's feasible (and it's nice to see
that you're considering the needs of the kids in this regard).

> For the virus thing: a recent virus scanner or another os 
> than Windows are much better solutions

I totally agree; we get plenty of virus-laden emails from traditional
sources!

> So why don't create "webspace/crap" and "webmail" categories?
> This way the user also better knows why some URL is blocked.

I think one of the first things that would be a good idea is to agree some
sort of common framework for categorisation of sites, along the lines that
you suggest (actually my blocklist has a separate "notbusiness" group that
correlates closely to "crap" :-). That way it would be easier for people to
pick and choose.

Nick Barron, Group IT Security Officer
Pennant Software Services Ltd -- Registered in England No. 3772667
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