On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:43:14AM -0500, Jonathan Angliss wrote:
> Hello Chris Green,
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2005, you wrote:
> 
> > Is there an easy/quick way to subscribe to lots of mail folders in
> > squirrel mail?
> 
> > I have a mail archive which has something over 3000 mailboxes and
> > folders in it so subscribing using the default mechanism in
> > squirrelmail would be a bit laborious.
> 
> Click Folders, in the subscription box, click on the folders you want
> to subscribe, hold down the ctrl key to click on multiples, or if you
> want to subscribe to them all in the box, select the top folder, hold
> the shift key, then click the bottom folder.  Then hit subscribe.
> 
Well that appeared to work but the folders don't appear in the folder
list in the mail viewing window.  It also makes everything run like
treacle even when the dovecot server is on the same machine as I'm
running the MUA.  After doing this eveything seems decidedly broken
and odd.


> > As an aside the SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE commands aren't supposed to be
> > used for what a lot of MUAs seem to think they're for. As a general
> > rule as I understand it *all* mailboxes should be visible. The IMAP
> > RFC implies (but doesn't state explicitly) that SUBSCRIBE is really
> > for use with newsgroups. At least mutt (for example) allows you to
> > toggle the 'wrong' use of SUBSCRIBE on and off.
> 
> I'm always curious about how people interpret RFCs as there is often
> different understandings of it. How did you come to this understanding
> of it? Can you provide references? Looking at the reference, they use
> #news as an example. #news is a namespaced folder I believe.  They
> could just have easily used:
> 
I discussed it in the comp.mail.imap newsgroup with people who know
the IMAP RFC (and what was intended by it) much better than I do.


>   A001 SUBSCRIBE #shared.support
> 
> Or just plain old folders...
> 
>   A002 SUBSCRIBE support
> 
> I don't really see where it says it's for newsgroups.  It does state
> the following...
> 
I said is wasn't explicit, it's the use only of news as an example
that leads many people to this conclusion.


> I'm also curious as to how you understood that /all/ folders should be
> shown? As far as I understand it, that's up to client implementation
> which I believe is not defined in RFC3501, just the usage of the
> commands, the data structures, and the likes. As I said though, I've
> not re-read the whole RFC in a while, so I might be missing something.
> 
... but *nowhere* does it say that unsubscribed mail folders should
become invisible does it?  It just says that subscribed folders are
listed by LSUB and all folders are listed by LIST.

OK, clients can do what they like but to my mind defaulting to a
situation where you can't see most of your mail is a very user
unfriendly approach.  What mutt does seems reasonably sensible to me,
it defaults to showing all folders and you can toggle to the other (to
me broken) approach.

-- 
Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

    "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."


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