Brian Candler writes: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:27:00AM +0000, Paul L. Allen wrote: > > Not only that, most of the new > > functionality, which is in demand, is missing from your implementation. > > When you say something like that, perhaps you could reference an > explicit list of those things which you think are missing?
They are listed in the horrible readme (if he thinks that is good web design then I am worried). I can see some of our clients with dedicated mail servers wanting the GPG functionality. I can see more of our clients wanting the calendaring stuff, even though the user interface is awkward. But the biggest demand is the mail filters. Exchange (spit) allows you to set up rules that filter mails and delivers selected messages to a sub-folder. Exchange allows vacation messages (done sensibly, not the qmailadmin/autoresponder broken way). People WANT those things. They want them a LOT. They want them enough that if we cannot offer equivalent functionality they will go to an ISP running Exchange (spit) servers. Sqwebmail with maildrop offers equivalent functionality. Riwos does not. Yes, the filters are relatively new to Sqwebmail, but that is no excuse for Riwos not to have them. You and I might be able to live without those features, but the people we are trying to sell accounts to are unwilling to. > Riwos' combined folder/message view Dunno about that. I went to his page, skimmed through it and didn't see any obvious info about the test account. But I didn't look very hard after I read that he was proud of losing a security feature. Yes, I hate frames, but Sqwebmail uses them for a reason (there are other solutions to the security problem but buttons are rather clunky and a JavaScript solution locks out Lynx). > and the clean templates without rounded corners are two > very big improvements IMO. You, sir, are a techy. My PHB *loves* the rounded corners. They are the sort of touch that give PHBs orgasms. Our users love them even more. I hate anything that slows things down with needless graphics, but I too am a techy. > I would drop sounds entirely though; that's just an annoyance and a waste > of code. Riwos has sounds? I am glad I didn't find the test account. Seriously, I can see some people liking them. But they'd have to be something you could enable or disable as a preference. And I would still like the timezone to be a preference rather than a login option. If you're not in the server's timezone then selecting your timezone each time you login is a pain. The only good thing I saw in the blurb about Riwos was the warning that your session was about to expire. But I would rather Sqwebmail/Riwos had some mechanism of saying "Your session expired while you were creating that message, which is reproduced below, login again and I'll send it." Too many people (including me) have been bitten by that one. :( Even though I have now learned to copy the message if I think my session is about to expire, too often I forget. > The amount of customisation which should be possible using *only* CSS is > huge. I know. CSS is under-utilized by most people. :( > That of course would mean dropping explicit support for non-CSS browsers, > since sqwebmail purposely mixes CSS and non-CSS attributes to get some > reasonable rendering on ancient browsers. Personally I would go that > route; I did that for years to ensure compatibility with browsers that are now ancient. These days I use just CSS, but try to limit myself to stuff that works reasonably sensibly on older browsers. > the number of users without CSS1-aware browsers must be pretty small by > now, Lynx is your friend. :) -- Paul Allen Softflare Support
