Now i got your problem Buddy.
Lack of knowledge & lot of talking.
You wanna get into this, Come i will take you there.
Brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas and sudras are distinguished by the qualities
born of their own natures in accordance with the material modes, O chastiser
of the enemy.
“Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty,
knowledge, wisdom and religiousness–these are the natural qualities by which
the brahmanas work.
“Heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle,
generosity and leadership are the natural qualities of work for the
ksatriyas.
“Farming, cow protection and business are the natural work for the vaisyas,
and for the sudras there is labor and service to others.
So the Vedas recognize different people have different skills and
qualifications, but it is no by birth, it is by guna [qualification] and
karma [work]. So if someone born of a sudra [worker] father becomes
qualified [guna] and works as [karma] a brahmana he should be accepted as a
brahmana… In the same way if the son of a brahmana doesn’t have the
qualifications of a brahmana or work as a brahmana then he is not a
brahmana. There are so many examples of this in the Vedic scriptures.
Castes system in India are primarily associated with Hindu Society {NOT
HINDUISM in proper means} . Muslims sometimes expressly deny that they have
castes--they state that all Muslims are brothers under God--but observation
of Muslim life in various parts of India reveals the existence of castelike
groups and clear concern with social hierarchy. Among Indian Christians,
too, differences in caste are acknowledged and maintained.
The Indian Constitution has outlawed caste-based discrimination, in keeping
with the socialist, secular, democratic principles that founded the
nation.Caste barriers have mostly broken down in large cities.Nevertheless,
the caste system, in various forms, continues to survive in modern India
strengthened by a combination of social perceptions and divisive politics.
Again putting a light on the caste system which segregates people by
employment: 1) The head represent the Brahmins, the spiritual educators or
seekers. 2) The shoulders represent the Kshatriya, needed for protection of
the community. 3) The stomach represent the Vaisya, the entrepreneurs and
business executives. 4) The legs represent the Sudras, the instruction
followers who go through life obeying instructions.
Justification....
The justification for the caste system is similar to the justification for
democracy
In a democracy, certain segments of populations go to poverty and others
become filthy rich, and there is associated corruption. The right to fail
and face the consequences, so as to learn, is its greatest advantage, making
it much better than the alternative. Similarly, the power abuse of one caste
over the others will happen from time to time.It is just like Darwin’s
theory of evolution, where animals get specialized in acquiring a certain
set of food. In this case, humans get specialized in their job functions so
that they excel in it over time, therefore increasing their spiritual level.
The Government of India has officially documented castes and subcastes,
primarily to determine those deserving reservation (positive discrimination
in education and jobs) through the census. The Indian reservation system,
though limited in scope, relies entirely on quotas. The Government lists
consist of Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Classes:
Scheduled castes (SC) - Scheduled castes generally consist of former
"untouchables" (the term "Dalit" is now preferred). The present population
is 16% of the total population of India (around 160 million). For example,
the Delhi state has 49 castes listed as SC.
Scheduled tribes (ST) - Scheduled tribes generally consist of tribal groups.
The present population is 7% of the total population of India i.e. around 70
million.
Other Backward Classes (OBC) - The Mandal Commission covered more than 3000
castes under OBC Category and stated that OBCs form around 52% (which
includes casts like Jat (जाट)) of the Indian population. However, the
National Sample Survey puts the figure at 32%. There is substantial debate
over the exact number of OBCs in India. It is generally estimated to be
sizable, but many believe that it is lower than the figures quoted by either
the Mandal Commission or the National Sample Survey.Now even Muslim's are
accomodated in OBC in various States across India.
Among Muslims, those who are referred to as Ashrafs are presumed to have a
superior status derived from their foreign Arab ancestry, while the Ajlafs
are assumed to be converts from Hinduism, and have a lower status. In
addition, there is also the Arzal caste among Muslims, who were regarded by
anti-caste activists like Ambedkar as the equivalent of untouchables. In the
Bengal region of India, some Muslims also stratify their society according
to 'Quoms'.While many scholars have asserted that the Muslim Castes are not
as acute in their discrimination as that among Hindus, some like Ambedkar
argued otherwise, writing that the social evils in Muslim society were
"worse than those seen in Hindu society".
In the 19th Century, the Brahmo Samaj under Raja Ram Mohan Roy, actively
campaigned against untouchability and Casteism. The Arya Samaj founded by
Swami Dayanand also renounced discrimination against Dalits. Sri Ramakrishna
Paramahamsa and his greatest disciple Swami Vivekananda who founded the
Ramakrishna Mission that participated in the emancipation of Dalits. Upper
caste Hindus, such as Mannathu Padmanabhan also participated in movements to
abolish Untouchability against Dalits, opening his family temple for Dalits
to worship. Narayana Guru, a pious Hindu and an authority on the Vedas, also
criticized casteism and campaigned for the rights of lower-caste Hindus
within the context of Hinduism.
The first "upper-caste" temple to openly welcome Dalits into their fold was
the Laxminarayan Temple in Wardha in the year 1928 (the move was spearheaded
by reformer Jamnalal Bajaj).
Caste system is related to the Indian society, and not Hinduism, Hindu
Nationalist organizations such as the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh have
actively criticized the caste system.Caste system is a social division of
people of the same race.
As the urban societies emerged in India, gradually the structure of the
caste system began molding its shape. Today no one gives a second thought
while seating next to a passenger in a bus, whether he is of the same caste
or not. Today, in modern India, the social mobility has been increased. All
the people from different castes come together in the eating houses, railway
stations, restaurants, public latrines, etc. caste does not matter to them.
Today, the modern society is based on the class system more than the caste
system. The status is achieved not ascribed. A person can move from a lower
class to higher class. A man with a lower caste having reached the highest
post is always respected just like the way people respect others. Hence,
caste plays a very insignificant role in the society.
But, still there is some part of India which is stuck in the evil hands of
caste system and untouchability. It becomes a menace when caste system is
given too much importance. There is no doubt about that.
But the best thing about Hindu society & Hinduism is we are always ready
accept if there is something wrong which we were told in or childhood
ages.We are not radical who simply follow something for the sake of
something written in a book.We introspect ourselves more than any other
religion .We as human being also understand that all things written in holy
books may not be correct , we just don't follow things blindly as other do.
The ability to keep our minds open makes us better.
Moreover Hinduism never says come & join us, like the top most populated
religions who force people to join their religion. We have a saying, GOD is
one, only the way of reaching him may defer , they way of praying may
differ, but the ultimate goal is one for every human being. {Unlike - There
is only One GOD i.e..... i dnt think i need to mention it here}.
Regards
Shail
Helping the poor is the holiest religion that anyone can possess and it
above all.
Regards
Shail
2010/3/22 Sania <[email protected]>
> all people in spite of religion are suffering from poverty. But they are
> not converting.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* venkatesh kumer <[email protected]>
> *To:* Sania <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:24 AM
> *Subject:* Re: ۞ HALLA BOL ۞ Re: ? HALLA BOL ? Unsafe Hindu
>
> hindus are converting to other religion becoz they r nt getting their
> basic needs....in one word i has to say its poverty.....untile these
> politicians will nt get correct these type of problems continues.....& v
> hope v have better ruling leaders in coming generation bye
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/3/10, Sania <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Sania <[email protected]>
> Subject: ۞ HALLA BOL ۞ Re: ? HALLA BOL ? Unsafe Hindu
> To: "Shailendra Singh" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, 4 March, 2010, 8:29 PM
>
>
> I'm afraid if hindus started to read Geeta, then there will be more
> conversion. Because it divides people on caste
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Shailendra
> Singh<http://in.mc86.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> *To:* Athish
> Aavikanth<http://in.mc86.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> *Cc:*
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> ۞
> HALLA BOL
> ۞<http://in.mc86.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>;
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: ۞ HALLA BOL ۞ Unsafe Hindu
>
> Its not the Hindu's who are unsafe.
>
> Its Hinduism...
>
> How many of us read or know facts of Bhagwat Geeta in our lifes, Like other
> religions , respective people know in and out of their religious books but
> how many hindu;s actually know about shiv puraan, thats the fact which is
> more worrying.
>
> So many a times i saw hindu's getting converted into religions because
> thier basics are not clear.
>
> Regards
> Shail
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Athish Aavikanth <
> [email protected]<http://in.mc86.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Jai Hind,
>>
>> *How unsafe are
>> Hindu in their own country?**
>>
>> Are Hindus safe in this country? In Tripura, Naga land, Mizoram Hindu's
>> institutions are under attack. Christians under the guise of Maoists are
>> attacking Sanskrit schools. Open religious functions are not allowed.
>> Media
>> that always remain on focus in Gujarat, never goes there. Parallel
>> Government
>> by Anti National groups run there. They collect even tax openly and no
>> body
>> dare to defy them. From Pusupati to Tirupati, Naxilites attack on Hindus
>> increasing day by day. In Kashmir Hindus are
>> displaced in their home. Govt. funds Jamia, Aligarh
>> Muslim University
>> which bears Muslim character but Banaras
>> Hindu University
>> has been made totally secular. In education, anti-hindu lessons are being
>> taught to the students. In films, scenes portraying fun of Hindu are made.
>> A
>> famous Muslim Hero can proclaim that "My name is Khan and I not terrorist.
>> But no body makes " My name is Kaul and I am
>> a displaced person in my country".*
>>
>>
>> *A painter declares, "My name is M.F.Hussain and I paint nude pictures of
>> Hindu Devi-davta."
>>
>>
>>
>> Star
>> T.V., N.D.T.V., and cnnIBN7 strike on all news items which hit Hindus. No
>> political party dare to protect Hindus as they are afraid of loosing the
>> votes
>> of Muslim community. Hindus are in wonderland to vote always for the party
>> which has left its Agenda and Jhanda in Hind Mahasagar(Indian
>> ocean) just for its lust for power to get the votes of Muslims.
>> Today, you will find mushroom of Convent Schools, Madrasses on all
>> corner of the city. But through the width and length of this country you
>> will
>> not find even one Hindu
>> School where Hindus could
>> send their wards to learn Hindu way of life. (Article 30 of the
>> constitution forbids this) Although, this is a secular country but it runs
>> on
>> the whims and fancy of Minority i.e. Muslims. (Mugal
>> raj chaloo hae) Maoists are in one side, Jehadies are on other side
>> with arms in their hands and in between media is there to defame Hindus.
>> Hindus
>> are not allowed to cry. Every day, the security perception is becoming
>> weaker day by day.*
>>
>
>
> *Do you think
> Hindus are safe in this country?*
>
>
> Jai Hind,
> Athish Ravikanth
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