Is this the beginning of a new paradigm ?? I personally have ~always~ (since 1990) believed that critical data should not be sent until ~after~ you hit the enter key. The server on the other side then easily parses the shell statement... My personal app, DepthDB (running on http://puny.vm.com) is a perl-only client server that receives and emits perl complex structures in serialized format (and a shell based "depth" format as well). Updates are always accompanied by an md5 hand-shake with passwds known on both sides. I'm an admin and I needed a dataserver pronto because management... well thats another story... (another mgt story, I may be going to court because I refused to pirate ssh2). I talked much w/ David Korn about developing TTY code for ksh to force ssh into this one-line-at-a-time format. I still wish I could move forward on this. Is this the beginning of a real down and dirty mud slinging debate ?? If so I hope its the last one, flaming is getting really old ;) I am personally highly grateful for all this metrical analysis that folks around the planet are doing to protect us from cracking-jerks. Actually a little jealous too. John --- J Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > check http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~dawnsong/ssh-timing.html for the > updated pdf > > Regards > > JG > > Hypermedia Research Centre > Sanyo R&D Headquarters, TOKYO > http://www.sanyo.co.jp/R_and_D/3dm/ > Tel: +81 (0)3 5803 3566 > Fax: +81 (0)3 5803 3640 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ===== John van Vlaanderen ############################################# # CXN, Inc. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # # Proud Sponsor of Perl/Unix of NY # # http://puny.vm.com # ############################################# __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/