On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 6:36 AM Peter 'PMc' Much < p...@citylink.dinoex.sub.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 07:52:55AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > ! On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 6:45 AM Peter 'PMc' Much < > ! p...@citylink.dinoex.sub.org> wrote: > ! > ! > Sorry, what kind of "side attack" are You talking about? > ! > > ! > ! Hot button political issue causing professional info warriors to launch > ! harassment campaigns against members of the project. Needless to say, > it's > ! a bit stressful, even though I'm not in the main path of these attacks. > You > ! never know what the other fellow's day has been like. > > Okay, then I'm probably not involved, since my political issues mainly > circle about building bicycle lanes in our village... > > ! Also, I hadn't intended anything I did around the boot loader to be > secret. > ! I made a mistake in not documenting the change thoroughly enough, though > ! it's easily remedied by building a custom loader. In hindsight somebody > ! should have caught it. > > Well, from the viewpoint of the observer it appears quite strange: > One finally finds this brief release note, which typically was skipped > for irrelevance on first read, and notices that it actually is very > relevant. > > Then one starts to wonder: sponsored by Netflix? This is not a > development or bugfixing effort needing sponsorship. It is just > changing a compile time option. > Is Netflix now uncapable of compiling the sources by themselves with > whatever options they would like to have? And do we all have to > follwo along the changes they impose, only because they can wave > with a chequebook? > This doesn't follow, and is gratuitously insulting. The setting / feature was changed in the best interest of the largest number of users in the community as BIOS booting starts to sunset. ZFS keeps growing, and we need the space so that we don't have silent failures on some OpenZFS imports that bring in a newer compression or crypto algorithm that gets too close to the line (there's not an exact hard limit due to runtime stack usage being a factor). Netflix pays me to maintain the boot loader. Part of that is to make sure it works for the largest number of people. BIOS has a hard limit, and after consultation with others in the community, we made the hard choice here. See the discussion at https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch/2024-October/000792.html This wasn't a convenience for Netflix: We build FreeBSD with dozens of options for our systems. One more would take me less time to add/remove than it took me to write this paragraph. I do *NOT* say that would be the truth! It is just the THOUGHTS that > come up from the available input (or lack thereof). > Not all thoughts need to be shared. We're a community and in this together. Sharing thoughts that allege bad faith or bad dealing is corrosive to the community, especially when done so without any real evidence of motivation. Warner > In fact, I for my part have no idea what the majority of users > might prefer to have in the loader. I don't even know any longer what > the majority is actually doing. > In the last century we had user-groups, we were meeting once a week, > we talked about and knew almost everything - but this has gone away > with the advent of "social media" :( > > > cheerio, > PMc >
