Thanks Alessandro
 
> > Is this an appropriate point in time for us to upgrade to 
> the latest 
> > SVN release in terms of any work-in-progress on revisions to the 
> > OntoNet API?
> 
> Yes I think it's time to take the step.

Great, thanks.

> 
> > Also, do you have any guidance on STANBOL-426, about resolving 
> > identifiers between ontologies in Ontonet with identifiers from 
> > external systems?  We'll of course look at this in the 
> context of the 
> > revisions to the codebase, but any pointers you can provide will be 
> > gratefully received.
> 
> I did not have time to comment on that one too, but the 
> OntologyProvider 
> interface does provide a low-level implementation of this issue (i.e. 
> getKey(IRI) where IRI can be either the logical or physical 
> IRI of the 
> ontology, and the Strings returned by the Clerezza provider 
> can be made 
> into UriRef)
> 
> We just have to check if it's worth escalating it to the level of 
> scope/space/session.

This sounds useful; we'll take a look as we integrate the latest SVN
revision to see how well this fits our use case and get back to you.
> 
> > I've also just raised a JIRA over the scalability issue we 
> had which 
> > you're aware of, please let us know if the latest revisions also 
> > tackle this issue.
> 
> Great! It would be even better if you could provide more quantitative 
> details such as the exact size of the ontology and the VM heap space.

I've added a comment to STANBOL-433 with some more information.

> 
> Hopefully the Clerezza re-implementation helps out on this. There is 
> still a conversion bottleneck if you need to access an 
> ontology in OWL 
> API form, but I am bugging the Manchester guys for a possible 
> solution 
> (a midlevel Clerezza adapter).

Great, we'll let you know how we get on.
> 
> I am also considering making scopes and spaces able to export 
> Clerezza 
> Graphs as an alternative to OWLOntology objects, would that be of any 
> use to you?

We'll come back to you as we progress with our implementatino.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alessandro Adamou [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 16 December 2011 18:47
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: For Acuity: thanks for your JIRA Tickets on the 
> Ontology Manager
> 
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> > Thanks very much for the update on this, we are looking forward to 
> > trying out the latest codebase; we'll raise any questions 
> we have over 
> > changes and deprecations on the list.
> 
> That's perfect! The list and JIRA are the places.
> 
> > Is this an appropriate point in time for us to upgrade to 
> the latest 
> > SVN release in terms of any work-in-progress on revisions to the 
> > OntoNet API?
> 
> Yes I think it's time to take the step.
> 
> > Also, do you have any guidance on STANBOL-426, about resolving 
> > identifiers between ontologies in Ontonet with identifiers from 
> > external systems?  We'll of course look at this in the 
> context of the 
> > revisions to the codebase, but any pointers you can provide will be 
> > gratefully received.
> 
> I did not have time to comment on that one too, but the 
> OntologyProvider 
> interface does provide a low-level implementation of this issue (i.e. 
> getKey(IRI) where IRI can be either the logical or physical 
> IRI of the 
> ontology, and the Strings returned by the Clerezza provider 
> can be made 
> into UriRef)
> 
> We just have to check if it's worth escalating it to the level of 
> scope/space/session.
> 
> > I've also just raised a JIRA over the scalability issue we 
> had which 
> > you're aware of, please let us know if the latest revisions also 
> > tackle this issue.
> 
> Great! It would be even better if you could provide more quantitative 
> details such as the exact size of the ontology and the VM heap space.
> 
> Hopefully the Clerezza re-implementation helps out on this. There is 
> still a conversion bottleneck if you need to access an 
> ontology in OWL 
> API form, but I am bugging the Manchester guys for a possible 
> solution 
> (a midlevel Clerezza adapter).
> 
> I am also considering making scopes and spaces able to export 
> Clerezza 
> Graphs as an alternative to OWLOntology objects, would that be of any 
> use to you?
> 
> Alessandro
> 
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alessandro Adamou [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:22 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: For Acuity: thanks for your JIRA Tickets on the Ontology 
> >> Manager
> >>
> >> Dear Martin, Steve,
> >>
> >> Thanks very much for the issues just opened on Stanbol JIRA 
> >> concerning ontology management.
> >>
> >> Most if not all of them were addressed in recent ontonet 
> revisions, 
> >> and I am documenting the changes with comments straight on 
> the issue 
> >> pages. Please feel free to follow up on them in case there are 
> >> additional requirements or misalignments with the current state. I 
> >> have roughly a couple of weeks to address any other issues 
> coming up.
> >>
> >> As it turns out, some parts of the ontonet API were 
> deprecated, but 
> >> others could just not stay there and had to be removed 
> altogether. I 
> >> apologise if this gets to break any of your previous code, 
> and will 
> >> be glad to point you to their replacements in return.
> >>
> >> Thank you again for the great cooperation.
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Alessandro
> >>
> >> --
> >> M.Sc. Alessandro Adamou
> >>
> >> Alma Mater Studiorum - Università di Bologna
> >> Department of Computer Science
> >> Mura Anteo Zamboni 7, 40127 Bologna - Italy
> >>
> >> Semantic Technology Laboratory (STLab)
> >> Institute for Cognitive Science and Technology (ISTC) National 
> >> Research Council (CNR) Via Nomentana 56, 00161 Rome - Italy
> >>
> >>
> >> "As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am 
> beyond their 
> >> timid, lying morality, and so I am beyond caring." (Col. Walter E. 
> >> Kurtz)
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> M.Sc. Alessandro Adamou
> 
> Alma Mater Studiorum - Università di Bologna
> Department of Computer Science
> Mura Anteo Zamboni 7, 40127 Bologna - Italy
> 
> Semantic Technology Laboratory (STLab)
> Institute for Cognitive Science and Technology (ISTC)
> National Research Council (CNR)
> Via Nomentana 56, 00161 Rome - Italy
> 
> 
> "As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond 
> their timid, lying morality, and so I am beyond caring." 
> (Col. Walter E. Kurtz)
> 
> 

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