Hi Adrian, thanks for sharing your proposal. Is the demo that you showed to Massimo available somewhere? I think it is a really nice use case for using Stanbol services ;)
Best, - Fabian 2012/6/21 Alessandro Adamou <[email protected]>: > Thanks for the input Adrian! > > I'll double-check the rules and reasoning proposal and get back to you > > Best, > Alessandro > > > > On 6/21/12 1:04 PM, Adrian Gschwend wrote: >> >> Hi group, >> >> First thanks for those who did some demos/presentations last week in >> Salzburg, I was really impressed by the outcome of this project. I can't >> remember another single FP7 project which provides such an interesting >> framework as a result. >> >> John asked me if I would like to do an early adopter project this >> summer, after studying the modules I can think of the following two use >> cases: >> >> Rules/Reasoning/Ontology Manager modules >> ---------------------------------------- >> netlabs.org is working on a framework which facilitates interfacing >> RDF based data. It goes into the direction of VIE but pushes the >> concept quite a bit further, into an even stronger abstraction. I >> showed a demo to Massimo Romanelli and I had the impression he was >> pretty impressed by the concept so I'm confident that it will be useful >> to the SemWeb community. VIE is doing things a bit different but I think >> it would even fit as a UI library on top of our framework (will have to >> investigate there). >> >> We heavily rely on ontologies in our framework, which means we cache >> them and do quite some reasoning on top of them to figure out how data >> can be shown in the optimal way. This includes figuring out >> relationship between ontology classes and attributes. Right now this >> reasoning is pretty dumb and mainly done in code, which means we >> analyze triples our self. After reading about rules, reasoning and >> ontologies in Stanbol I'm pretty sure that we could do all this and >> much more in Stanbol. >> >> So the proposal would be to use the mentioned modules of Stanbol to: >> >> - cache ontologies. Right now we fetch them from the various >> official sites which are often very slow and unreliable >> - reason/infere (and cache the reasoned stuff) relationships in the >> ontologies. This includes figuring out which attribute belongs to >> which class, which class to which superclass etc. We could do much >> smarter matching with Stanbol than we do now, which would improve our >> interfaces >> - implement several strategies to figure out matches between data, >> which again improves our user interface. As an example, the interface >> could figure out that foaf:based_near is a spacial thing and thus can be >> shown by an interface class which can show a map. >> >> Expected results for users: >> - Much smarter user interfaces that can adopt to the selected (RDF >> based) data and choose the best representation for that data on a >> particular device (smartphone might look different than the desktop web >> browser) >> - Faster experience because we cache the ontologies and additional >> inferred knowledge in Stanbol >> >> Expected results from a data perspective: >> - Create "class trees and property trees" for ontologies. The goal is to >> find out how classes and properties are related to each other. In our >> framework widgets match to RDF properties. But we cannot and do not want >> to implement a class for every property so the relationship between >> properties can help the system to figure out which widget might be the >> best choice to interface a certain information, even if the widget >> designer did not necessarily think of that upfront. >> >> I would use Stanbol via the REST API, as our reference implementation >> is mainly written in Node.js. Like this I could easily replace our >> REST interfaces which do the work right now. >> >> I think there is a huge potential in the reasoning part and I would >> love to spend time on that and see where we can go with it. >> >> As a last remark, our framework will be released under APL as well and I >> would surely make all stanbol related stuff available as well. >> >> Document Management Demo with Contenthub >> ---------------------------------------- >> I would use the ContentHub module to store and index all kind of >> documents using the Apache Solr backend integrated into Stanbol. >> >> After analyzing the exposed RDF data provided by ContentHub we would >> implement a demo of how Stanbol can be used to find documents in a >> semantically enriched way via smart queries. >> >> I assume we could use the rules/reasoning/ontology modules again to >> match to other resources and ontologies and make the search more valuable. >> >> In this demo we would focus more on the RDF data exposed by >> ContentHub. Reasoning needs to be used too here but heavily depends on >> the quality of the ContentHub output so it's hard to judge how much we >> could do right now. >> >> Expected results for users: >> - Demo about how enrichment via RDF data can support document management >> in terms of categorization, grouping, archiving etc. >> - Demo about how ontologies can help figuring out relationships between >> data which cannot be done with classical tagging (broader/narrower >> search results) >> -> prove of concept to show if and how Stanbol could be used for >> document management systems like Nuxeo, Mircosoft Sharepoint etc. >> >> Expected results from a data perspective: >> - Insight in how powerful entity extraction works from an RDF data >> perspective for "classical" documents used and found in every company >> today >> - See how well it fits in company-internal vocabularies and thesaurus >> concepts >> - Some ideas how difficult it is to gain additional knowledge using >> reasoning/infercence etc on it >> >> >> These are the things I can think of right now. Note that I will use >> Stanbol anyway, there seems to be a lot of useful stuff in there! >> >> As a last remark: We are not Java coders so we would use the REST APIs >> as is mainly and talk to the developers on the list if we run into >> issues. We are pretty good in reporting stuff, DBpedia fixed a whole lot >> of things after we started using it and reported issues ;) >> >> Let me know if you find any of those interesting. I am not sure how >> much details you need in the end if we could participate in the >> program. We do have the resources this summer so we could spend time on >> it pretty soon. >> >> The amount of time we invest would be discussed with you. I would report >> to the list on a regular base if you want. >> >> cu >> >> Adrian >> >> - -- Adrian Gschwend >> @ netlabs.org >> >> ktk [a t] netlabs.org >> - ------- >> Open Source Project >> http://www.netlabs.org >> >> > > > -- > M.Sc. Alessandro Adamou > > Alma Mater Studiorum - Università di Bologna > Department of Computer Science > Mura Anteo Zamboni 7, 40127 Bologna - Italy > > Semantic Technology Laboratory (STLab) > Institute for Cognitive Science and Technology (ISTC) > National Research Council (CNR) > Via Nomentana 56, 00161 Rome - Italy > > > "I will give you everything, just don't demand anything." > (Ettore Petrolini, 1917) > > Not sent from my iSnobTechDevice > -- Fabian http://twitter.com/fctwitt
