On Mon Oct 22 17:02:55 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Not since RFC 3978 was published. Details here:

http://josefsson.org/bcp78broken/

I think some of this is out of date, actually - the IETF Trust does state, quite clearly (although informally) that many of these rights are in fact granted. There was a long and rather dull thread involving Simon, myself, and others about this on the IETF list, although I'm not sure that Simon was convinced, although I think he was partly convinced.

It's further complicated by the fact that some code present in RFCs is licensed explicitly within the RFCs, even though it's licensed implicitly because it's an RFC as well. Which probably goes to show how carefully people think about these things. :-)

I don't think anyone disagrees that the various theoretical use-cases Simon has there shouldn't be legal, it's more that many people think they already are, and don't want the (severe) headache of trying to change the text - there's a large body of people who have to be generally convinced it's worthwhile, and currently that's simply not the case.

The situation with RFCs is made more complex because the IETF [Trust] does not own the copyright on the RFCs, whereas the XSF does. (Or at least, it thinks people have assigned it copyright by the action of submitting the XEP).

This means that the IETF Trust merely has to work within the rights it has been licensed, whereas the XSF can wholesale relicense its XEPs utterly.

Dave.
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