On Wed Nov  7 22:27:34 2007, Fabio Forno wrote:
We're developing a mobile client and we think that kind of information should be threated in a different manner. In mobiles networks regular
socket connections have many problems (mainly disconnection handling
that forces a new login)

(Hmm, this reminds me, I need to get around to finishing and publishing an I-D before the deadline on fast reauth).

 and therefore we prefere bosh based
connections.

I do think that BOSH is an exceedingly good design. But, FWIW, I use long-lived TCP connections over mobile networks quite a lot, and I find they work fine, even when moving between cells. (I use XMPP, but also IMAP and ACAP, all of which have server initiated data transfers, or "push" as the media calls it).

As far as I know, the OMA are increasingly interested in long-lived TCP based protocols, too, so the stability of mobile networks will hopefully improve.

as rosters, avatars...). Moreover large amounts of binary data
exchanaged with mobiles are very unlikely, so I don't see the
necessity of making xml streams more complex for use cases that are
not well defined, if not improbable.

Right - I'll skip your discussion of binary XML formats (although important), but I do want to pick up on this.

You're absolutely right - right now, exchanging large amounts of binary data over long thin pipes is a very unlikely state of affairs.

I think this will change, primarily due to encryption, and - as a much more minor issue - due to increased "rich messaging". (I'm thinking about radio stations showing you pictures of the band now playing, and such things, which certainly some mobile companies are very keen on).

If the rich messaging doesn't happen, I won't be too bothered. If encryption doesn't happen on mobile devices because it's too expensive, I'll be very troubled indeed.

Dave
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