On Wednesday 01 September 2010 12:18:22 you wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed Sep  1 19:39:58 2010, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Justin Karneges
> >> 
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday 01 September 2010 11:29:54 Kevin Smith wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Dave Cridland <[email protected]>
> >> >> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > On Wed Sep  1 19:26:44 2010, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > 2010/9/1 Dave Cridland <[email protected]>:
> >> >> >> >> XEP-0145 provides a very simplistic capability for storing
> >> >> >> >> notes about contacts on the server.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> Very rough, though - I'd be open to something better that
> >> >> >> >> actually
> >> >> >> >> tied into
> >> >> >> >> the roster, personally.
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Yes, it seems very limited (just some text note). I would expect
> >> >> >> > something as a vcard for each contact stored within the roster.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> In theory the server should be storing whatever child elements you
> >> >> >> include in a roster set as well, although I don't know how many,
> >> >> >> if any, currently do this.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Gosh. Not us, but it does sound like the right thing to be doing.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > How does a client know this is possible, rather than using '49 or
> >> >> > '223?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Assume it is, because it's part of the RFC (or bis, anyway)? :)
> >> > 
> >> > Erm, isn't there a risk that existing clients will destroy the
> >> > metadata if the
> >> > roster item is ever modified?
> >> 
> >> There's a risk, but clients should be persisting content they don't
> >> understand, rather than binning it.
> > 
> > It does all seem to rely on luck and a following wind, doesn't it?
> > 
> > Could we not make this a little more reliable, like roster versioning?
> 
> We could - although it's not clear to me how much of a problem this is
> - other storage specs suffer from it as well - Bookmarks for example
> (either over private or P(E|O|I)P).

I have a strong feeling no client stores arbitrary XML of roster items to keep 
around when (re)submitting changes.  At least not any designed before this 
became a topic.

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