Please just don't forget that chat is completely different text _editing_...

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:42, Mark Rejhon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am authoring the Real Time Text, along with members of
> realtimetext.org (Gunnar, etc).  The old draft is at
> http://www.realjabber.org/realtimemtext.html ... but is currently
> being rewritten and simplified for 0.02 resubmission.
>
> I have a private extension to my real time text standard that allows
> unlimited retroactive editing via indexing the message line via a
> "msg" parameter.
>
> It would have been useful for:
> - critical writing where deep-retroactive edits are desirable.
> - Real time transcription of court reporting
> - Real time captioning workflows where a caption editor works at the
> same time as a transcriber on adjacent computers.
> - it is MUC compatible (although not supported by my 0.02 spec except
> as a private extension) for one-to-many transmission, like to multiple
> audience members or several TV stations, that needs a hook into the
> feed.  They can reject or accept edits before X lines automatically,
> as needed...
>
> Logging would have been done by:
> - Retransmitting any changed lines in a body element, everytime Enter
> is hit, or cursor arrow up/down goes out of bounds of the current line
> (cursor moves to adjacent line)
>
> Edits prievious to the current line can be automatically color-coded
> and highlighted automatically, to make it much harder to miss edits.
> My real time text standard also includes support for cursor position
> transmissions (which can be optionally rendered for a visible cursor)
> which makes it even easier to watch somebody make an edit.
>
> The retroactive editing feature is not an official part of my real
> time text standard as I had decided to leave it out, but to allow it
> to be added on as a private extension, if needed.
>
> Please be noted all of this is being left out of 0.02 of my real time
> text standard for simplicity.
>
> However, it would be worth some thought how your retroactive edit
> standard, may help (or interfere) with my technique of retroactive
> editing, and to make sure that our standards are compatible.
>
> Thanks!
> Mark Rejhon
> (Authoring the XMPP Real Time Text Standard)
>
> On 3/25/11, Remko Tronçon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Only the latest message seems overly restrictive (especially if the last
>>> message you send it "oops"). I'd say a buffer of, say, the last 5
>>> messages might be appropriate.
>>
>> For the same reason, I think that only one edit is overly restrictive.
>> I have needed several edits to get a one-sentence IM message right :-)
>>
>> I don't see a reason to put in arbitrary restrictions in the protocol
>> (different use cases can warrant different limits); i wouldn't mind
>> recommendations, though.
>>
>> As long as the client indicates that a message has been edited X times
>> (and provides the original message), i don't really see any issues.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Remko
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>



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