On Aug 15, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Kevin Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

>> In fact, I'd argue that this spec is a technical solution to a social
>> problem
> 
> I note, after drafting many more acerbic replies, that this is
> consistent with all specs.
> 
> Messaging is a social problem.

Yes.

My concern is how effective our solution is in solving the social problem, 
messaging between humans.

XMPP IM (without 308) has demonstrated itself to be an effective solution.  
XMPP IM with 308 implemented universally would also likely an effective 
solution.

It seems to me that XMPP IM, with some clients supporting 308 and some not, 
will be less effective than either of the above solutions, simply because key 
information (this message is a correction) is lost on fallback in clients not 
supporting 308.

I do suspect that a social solution to this issue will be found.

I don't object to progressing 308 to Draft.

-- Kurt


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