-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8/15/12 8:54 AM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Kevin Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> In fact, I'd argue that this spec is a technical solution to a >>> social problem >> >> I note, after drafting many more acerbic replies, that this is >> consistent with all specs. >> >> Messaging is a social problem. > > Yes. > > My concern is how effective our solution is in solving the social > problem, messaging between humans. > > XMPP IM (without 308) has demonstrated itself to be an effective > solution. XMPP IM with 308 implemented universally would also > likely an effective solution. > > It seems to me that XMPP IM, with some clients supporting 308 and > some not, will be less effective than either of the above > solutions, simply because key information (this message is a > correction) is lost on fallback in clients not supporting 308.
In a chatroom I frequent, someone just used last message correction, which my client does not support... [08:18:52] <user> i though the old IPs work again? [08:18:56] <user> i thought the old IPs work again? I perceived it as retyping the entire message to make the correction, which I suppose was reasonable. However, whether the retyped message makes sense depends on how much was changed. This would have been strange... [08:18:52] <user> i though the old IPs work again? [08:18:56] <user> did I hear correctly that the old IPs work again? or even... [08:18:52] <user> i though the old IPs work again? [08:18:56] <user> Peter, you're a loser > I do suspect that a social solution to this issue will be found. Socially speaking, I think most corrections are slight. But potentially they could be significant and subject to abuse. > I don't object to progressing 308 to Draft. It's not a hill for me to die on. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAruhoACgkQNL8k5A2w/vz/PQCguVskRDKnj0fbKIAgahIuXK6f qFUAoLU133X9nNQHTI+kthV+z+FIIwo6 =r/mm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
