Agreed,

There's been way more XMPP mailing list discussion over massively bigger
changes during Draft stage.
As a primary author, I can't prevent people from raising a fuss over minor
nitpicks that's unrelated to standards.\

Even many XMPP mailing list people think that the XEP-0301 standard already
includes the Kitchen Sink, and some people want to add a second Kitchen
Sink.

Thanks,
Mark Rejhon

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <[email protected]>wrote:

> Agree
>
> clean up and editorial things you see that are quick and likely to get
> noticed (typos)  (to keep people from all mentioning them on last call) and
> get it out.
>
> ALSO do anything that you think someone else might think of as substatial
> later (so you don't have to repeat last call after you do them) If there
> are any
>
>
> and send it to last call.
>
>     *Gregg*
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> Director Trace R&D Center
> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
> and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
> Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
> Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International -
> http://Raisingthefloor.org
> and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net
>
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> The issues that Gunnar is raising are all "tidying up" issues.  Existing
> problems in implementations today are caused by not complying with stuff
> already in the spec for several versions.  The spec is pretty complete
> as-is.  I re-read XMPP's website and they are all in that category.  It's
> really down to nitpicks at this stage.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Smith <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:16:04
> To: XMPP Standards<[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected], XMPP Standards <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Standards] XEP-0301 (In-Band Real Time Text) - review
> observations
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Gunnar Hellstrom
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We are clearly down
> to issues where it would be better to take it through last call.
>
>
> Ignoring everything else as I've not found time to read the thread
> yet, I'll point out that up until LC the authors are free to edit the
> document as they please - this stops being true once it's been LCd.
> For it to get to Draft it's going to need to have the open issues
> cleared up (i.e. knowing there are open issues and "We're intending
> further developing it in 2014" is a reason to not send it to Draft
> IMO), and once Draft all changes have to go through Council. Changes
> /can/ be made to Draft XEPs, but other than tidying of things found in
> deployment it needs to by and large remain the same.
>
> /K
>
>
>

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