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On 6/12/13 3:10 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Peter Waher
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> 
>> The biggest outstanding issues are the unclear copyright
>> ownership
> around the SOAP examples.  The appear to be from W3Schools,
>> but it is unclear if you have rights to place them into a XEP,
> which then requires you to assign those rights to the XSF.  We 
> cannot accept this proto-XEP until the copyright issues are
> resolved.
> 
> I thought it would be instructive to use common or known examples. 
> It would fall under "fair use" in copyright law. (It is also 
> sufficiently changed to not be a literal copy.) It's also clearly 
> attributed, with reference to originator. 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
> 
> 
> Stop right there.
> 
> 1) Fair Use is not a universal concept, so it's a dangerous one to
> use.
> 
> 2) The XSF doesn't operate on license, it operates on assignment,
> so Fair Use and Attribution and all those other things don't
> apply.
> 
> So writing the W3C Schools for permission to use their examples
> doesn't help, because that's a license, and asking them to assign
> copyright on their examples to the XSF is just a non-starter.
> 
> If it were my decision - and it's not, I hasten to add - I would
> insist the examples had to be replaced.

I do insist. Peter, please change the examples. XEP-0072 should give
you examples that are usable. If not, contact me off-list and we'll
work on that together.

Peter Saint-Andre
XEP Editor, Executive Director, and Chief Bottle-Washer

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