On 6/2/14, 10:48 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.

Title: Recipient Server Side Notifications Filtering

Abstract: This specification defines a modern efficient way to deliver PubSub 
notifications.

URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rsf.html

The XMPP Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this 
proposal as an official XEP.


I've finally made time to read this proposal.

It seems to me that the proposal is saying that PEP isn't always ideal, so we need a new protocol. However, I think that for high-scale scenarios (e.g., a bot collecting geolocation information about all users in a large company, or microblogging for users with lots of followers), it might be better to use generic pubsub (XEP-0060) without presence involved at all, not PEP (which as noted depends on having bidirectional presence subscriptions in place). PEP is a simplification of pubsub for IM systems, but not all pubsub systems are based on IM. However, a system could be architected such that it provides two ways to subscribe to the same information (via pubsub and PEP). Or a system could implement full pubsub on every JID, instead of using the simplified technology we defined in the PEP spec. I'm not, however, seeing the need for a completely new protocol.

Just my centigram of silver...

Peter

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