> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Despite your argument to the contrary, I think you and Kurt have convinced me 
> that we should keep Carbons (and <private/>) as-is.
> 

I think I actually favor the <no-copy/> semantics over the <private/> 
semantics.   Private semantics prevents use of carbons to achieve what could be 
achieved by forwarding… at expense of additional messaging traffic.   For 
instance, maybe I (as user) am operating a client, call it logger, intended to 
capture all messages sent to me.   The logger could make use of carbons to 
achieve this if it weren’t for the requirement that my server not give my 
logger what I asked it to provide to it.  The idea that a sender of the message 
can cause my server not to carbon a message I’ve asked it to carbon seems quite 
odd to me.   A hint is, I think, a more sensible semantic as it allows my 
server, possibly with my input, to what is needed to support my use of my 
clients.

— Kurt

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