Has the functional overlap with XEP-0308 "Last message correction" already
been discussed? What's the reason for creating a distinct XEP? Would it be
good to have the new XEP include 'correction', and replace 308?

On 18 October 2016 at 10:44, Dave Cridland <d...@cridland.net> wrote:

> On 17 October 2016 at 20:45, XMPP Extensions Editor <edi...@xmpp.org>
> wrote:
> > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.
> >
> > Title: Message Deletion
> >
> > Abstract: This specification defines a method for indicating that a
> message should be retracted.
> >
> > URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-retraction.html
> >
> > The council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this
> proposal as an official XEP.
> >
>
> Blocking:
>
> The XEP title hasn't changed; we really need to avoid the "Deletion"
> word to properly describe what this XEP is doing. (Or rather, what
> it's not doing).
>
> Non-Blocking (feel free to dispute these):
>
> 1) MAM access.
>
> I'm concerned that there exists a mechanism for abuse if messages are
> ever truly expunged from the archive. I think this XEP should include
> a MAM extension for accessing the unexpunged message for
> administrative users.
>
> The risk here is that an abusive and/or spam message is sent to a
> chatroom, that is then (immediately) removed from the archive. We want
> administrators to be able to see the original message, I think.
>
> It could be that administrators *always* see the original message and
> the <retracted/> indicator.
>
> 2) Tombstone Privacy
>
> At the opposite end of the scale, I wonder if by requiring the
> original JID in the tombstone, we expose more data than we need to. If
> the administrator can see the full data (as above), then i think we
> can safely remove more data from the retraction tombstone.
>
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