Kevin Smith <[email protected]>: > It’s worth noting that I think you mean the ‘Public/unaffiliated > Internet XMPP IM use case”. Lots of XMPP use is either pre-provisioned > or off-Internet, or both.
Indeed. If you have some catchy name for it, I'll gladly apply that label to make my intentions more clear. >> https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Easy_Onboarding > > Apart from brief bits I disagree with (hiding password generation from > the user), I think pretty much all of this can be achieved by a > sufficiently motivated client already. The goal of Easy* was to write down the things that can easily be done today. However, few client developers are sufficiently motivated, aware of Easy* or competent in the UX domain. Just to pick a random example: Gajim, the most actively developed (or user visible) desktop client, is a nightmare to configure for a user who's new to XMPP. We really need to stop being a communication protocols org and start caring about UX. Writing down these things, and motivating client developers to implement them, is a task we finally need to face and act upon. There are ideas going beyond the Easy* series, like what Sam recently proposed for a centrally maintained list of public servers with tldr ToS. Such a list is obviously a group effort, and it needs protocol and client support. >> https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Easy_Roster_Invitations > I’ve only scanned it, but it doesn’t look immediately stupid on > scanning, and I think writing up a XEP would be a good way to get > further comment. That's the danger of thread necromancy 😉 http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0379.html has been published and didn't receive much feedback yet. It still needs a followup to move the token generation and approval to the server, but I haven't had the time for that yet. As a corollary, I've started https://github.com/ge0rg/easy-xmpp-invitation which can easily be hosted by server operators or client implementors to support the onboarding. Georg -- +++ Sent from Mobile +++ https://op-co.de/ +++ _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________
