Sat, 25 Mar 2017 16:45:34 +0100
Philipp Hörist <[email protected]> wrote:

> Its seems you dont like e2e encryption, and maybe you have no use
> case for it, but other people have obliviously as many people are
> using it.

So what's the problem? Use it.

> Thats only true if you only use one device. And thats intended as we
> dont want people that get our key to decrypt our Archive. its called
> Perfect Forward Secrecy.

Yeah, tell that a user when he loses his key. This will help him a
lot :)

> Also i dont see how your UX Problems with Public-key cryptography
> have any relevance here.

Well, browser developers resolved this UX problem by providing
preconfigured CA certificates, so a user doesn't need to decide. I
don't see how this is possible with OMEMO. And if it's not possible,
then, like someone said on the list before, "a protocol creating UX
problems is a bad protocol".

> If your solution to Public-key cryptography UX Problems is to use no
> encryption at all, it feels like you wasting our time.

LOL, but it's you who trying to waste my time because I (or another
ejabberd developer) will have to implement this OMEMO stuff :)
And I never said "not to use encryption at all".
I actually don't care as long as OMEMO is client developers burden.
That's why I typically silent on this topic.

> Whats your Agenda? Obviously you are not interested in e2e, so just
> dont use it.

My "agenda" is that I'm against putting OMEMO on the server for the
reasons I mentioned, that's it.
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