On Sat, 29 May 2021 at 04:10, Sam Whited <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't understand how this would have anything to do with IPR, can you > expand on that? > > Our IPR rules dictate that the XSF owns the IPR in our XEPs, and also the contributions to them. This is straightforward and simple on a mailing list, or a formal XSF activity like a summit.
Outside of the XSF, things get murky, since if your group suggests changes, we're going to need to get IPR assignments from all of them. And if you're saying this is, and I quote, an "XSF Modernization Working Group", then things get murkier still, when it's not an XSF activity at all. To be very clear here, I think the actual goal here, and indeed the format, is great. With my Council hat on, I'm absolutely 100% behind this. But with my XSF Member hat on, and my XSF Board hat on, I'm concerned that this looks very like an XSF activity but isn't one, and I'm concerned that there are potential risks here. So what I'd like to propose is that we put this on hold for a bit, and get consensus from the membership and sanction from the Board to turn this into a virtual XMPP Summit (or mini-summit, or something). There's a delay involved because we'll need to get this sorted at the next Board meeting on Thursday, although I'm fine with trying to get agreement from the Board beforehand if the consensus from the membership is clear enough, and I'm happy to help seek and frame that consensus. How does that sound? Dave. > The idea is just to have a discussion about a bunch of XEPs and where > they are in the process. This sort of thing normally happens on the > mailing list, but getting a bunch of people in a room together (more or > less) is also a good way to generate ideas and spark discussion. > > —Sam > > On Fri, May 28, 2021, at 14:54, Dave Cridland wrote: > > Hey Sam, > > > > I'm a little worried about this, and how it squares with our IPR > > policies. > > > > What do you feel can't be done within the XSF here? > > > > Dave. > > > > On Fri, 28 May 2021 at 15:31, Sam Whited <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm doing another experiment with the office hours. Sometime in the > > > near future (currently 2021-06-08, but this may change) we're going > > > to try having a "working" session where we go through a list of XEPs > > > suggested by you all and write up recommendations for what should > > > happen to these XEPs. If we don't finish within an hour we will > > > spread it over multiple days. > > > > > > These recommendations won't be actual language or work on any > > > specific XEP but should be process things like "issue LC", > > > "deprecate", "obsolete", or "needs rewrite". We'll try to discuss > > > each XEP and come to consensus on what the future of it looks like, > > > write it up in a document along with our reasoning and any dissents > > > if we can't come to consensus, and then present the document to the > > > council (who of course may or may not choose to use it). > > > > > > If this sounds fun to anyone, please submit your ideas of XEPs that > > > need discussion and work before 08 June to the following list: > > > > > > > https://pad.disroot.org/p/XSF_Modernization_Working_Group_Recommendations > > > > > > Consider setting a name for yourself before you edit and please keep > > > the list sorted. Thank you! > > > > > > —Sam > > > > > > -- > > > Sam Whited > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Standards mailing list Info: > > > https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: > Standards- > > > [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > Standards mailing list Info: > > https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: > Standards- > > [email protected] <mailto:Standards-unsubscribe%40xmpp.org> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > -- > Sam Whited > _______________________________________________ > Standards mailing list > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ >
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