On Sat, May 29, 2021, at 15:40, Dave Cridland wrote: > "Working Group" does have a particular meaning in the standards world, > but I was more concerned with the "XSF" prefix, yes.
Oops, didn't realize that was in there, I've changed the title. > It does not, and as noted, I didn't say the words in quotation marks. Those were supposed to be a paraphrase of what you said, I think that was clear enough given that we were in an email thread where your exact words were readily available and also quoted in my reply. I think they were a reasonable paraphrase, but I apparently still don't understand what's going on or how any of this relates to a round table discussion, so maybe I'm wrong. > > Dave's issue is probably that the outcome of such a discussion is > > potentially submitted and accepted into a XEP. And suppose later, a > > participant of that discussion claims part of the submission as his > > work, but is unwilling (or unable) to agree to XSF's IPR policy. In > > that case, the XEP could be viewed as tainted. > > > > That, yes. I'd hope the problem - figuring out where the text came > from and whether the author agreed to the IPR policy - would be > spotted earlier than that, though, but that would just mean the > contribution getting rejected, meaning lots of people have wasted > their time. > > > But I don't see how this is different if the discussion took > > place on a XSF mailing list (or even at the XSF summit). I don't > > remember agreeing that every idea I express on an XSF mailing > > list is automatically covered by the IPR policy when subscribing > > to the list. > > > > That is a whole other problem. I didn't understand this section. We're not writing an XEP, we're having discussions about what should happen with existing XEPs. > > Hence suggesting that such a venue requires XSF approval appears to > > me just inflicting unnecessary bureaucracy. > > > > Well, we can flip it around - if our existing discussion venues are > insufficient, then that's clearly a bug, and how do we fix that? I don't know if they're insufficient or not, but a round table is a nice casual venue that makes a good addition to everything else. —Sam _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________
