On 11 Jun 2021, at 21:57, Ralph Meijer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On June 11, 2021 10:12:31 PM GMT+02:00, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 17:10, Kevin Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> * "No person has any automatic right to join a chatroom, or write a XEP." >> in §3 ought to be something else, since writing a XEP doesn't need the >> XSF's permission as such. >> >> I'm not sure what this can be, but I accept that writing private extensions >> using the XEP format and publishing them independently might be considered >> "writing a XEP", and that's not within the XSF's purview. > > I don't agree here. Hairsplitting below. > > Yes, people are free to create XMPP extensions (lowercase), and I believe it > is one of the better strengths that people can do so without permission from > anyone, as long as they use namespaces in a certain way to not conflict with > others. This is part of the distributed "DNA" of XMPP, and emphasizes that > the XSF is just one moving part in our community and not the end all and be > all of things XMPP. > > However, I also strongly believe that using the term XEP implies that it is > part of the XSF XEP series, and that an XMPP extension in whatever format > only becomes a XEP when it is accepted as Experimental, becoming part of the > series and receiving a number. > > I think XEP-0001 is clear on the above and the custom of calling things in > the inbox as proto-XEP affirms this.
I think I’ve already possibly caused more noise on this one than it was worth, but my concern wasn’t that the statement is ambiguous for people who Know What’s Up, but that an absolute novice to the ecosystem might see it as a statement that they can’t write their own extensions, and just move onwards without giving XMPP a second chance. It seems like a simple text tweak might be unecessary, but also not harmful. I’ll drop this one now, smarter people than me can judge it. /K _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________
