https://logs.xmpp.org/council/2022-06-22?p=h#2022-06-22-09b8686af2f96171

1) Roll Call
Present: Georg, Daniel, Jonas, Travis
Apologies: Larma

2) Agenda Bashing
None.

3) Editor's Update
* Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP over QUIC
* Proposed XMPP Extension: WebSocket S2S

Daniel takes the opportunity to remind Editor of the XEP-0215 Last Call (no 
rush.)

4b) Proposed XMPP Extension: XMPP over QUIC - 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xmpp-over-quic.html
Travis: +1 (as author)
Georg: [on-list]
Jonas: +1 (I like the idea)
Daniel: +1
Larma: [pending]

4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: WebSocket S2S - 
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/websocket-s2s.html
As a developer, Daniel understands "just do everything rfc xyz is doing 
except…" in the Requirements, but isn't sure this is the correct form - the 
author, Travis, didn't want the risk of copying the wrong part or missing 
something. Jonas has ethical concerns and needs to ponder, though a proper 
section on 'Motivation' may convince him (noting this is currently entirely 
missing) - the author thinks that's covered in Use Cases.
Daniel asks whether anyone else feels that this belongs in an update of RFC 
7395 [1] - Jonas does too - the author expects both belong in RFCs, but is 
unfamiliar with that process. Daniel suggests Informational XEP as a cheap 
alternative; also notes the illegal use of an IETF namespace - Jonas suggests 
using 'urn:xmpp:…'.
The author points to RFC 7858 [2] as a prior art for "just do what RFC X says" 
- Daniel will have to read up on that before voting.
Daniel doesn't think creating an RFC is particularly hard, which seems like a 
better way to handle it - the author will have to look into that.
Daniel doesn't want to be the only one blocking this - Jonas is happy to be a 
second blocker, if needed.

Travis: +1 (as author)
Jonas: [on-list]
Georg: [on-list]
Daniel: [on-list]
Larma: [pending]

5) Pending Votes
None.

6) Date of Next
2022-06-29 1500 UTC

7) AOB
None.

8) Close
Thank you all. Thanks Daniel. Thanks all!


Kev notes that various things have, in the past, migrated from XEP to RFC and 
back again; doesn't think that starting as XEP and migrating to RFC would be 
the end of the world, unless Council/XSF lacks the ability to review sensibly 
(as is sometimes the case with security things.)


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7395
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7858

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