Hi Daniel,

Le mardi 14 janvier 2025, 09:18:21 heure normale d’Europe centrale Daniel 
Gultsch a écrit :
> Hi Goffi,
> 
> I’m a bit conflicted on that.
> I’m a big proponent of using Experimental as a base for people to do
> experiments in (and I’m working hard to move everything that turned
> out to be both useful and working to stable).
> Furthermore I believe that "hybrid bridges" are something that we need
> to experiment with if we want to maintain our concept of
> bridges/gateways.
> 
> However as someone who has actually implemented XMPP<->PGP Encrypted
> emails before I’m also seeing a lot of challenges in this particular
> one and in hybrid bridges in general.

I know that this is a challenge, and I think that experimental is for that: 
having a written specification help people to understand the feature and have 
test implementation.

I believe that gateway e2ee is doable and necessary, and I have a working 
implementation in my email gateway (however, not yet perfect, as signing is 
not done at the moment, still better than plain text).

> I’m with Marvin on this one. How about instead of handing out 3 XEP
> numbers we give you one to do your experiments in and we take it from
> there. I would like to see at least one other (experimental) gateway
> to proof out that this can actually be generalized.

Sure, as I've said in the other reply, I'm absolutely fine with that. Lets see 
if other people are interested in working on that. Of course there are not so 
many gateway developers, so it's more difficult to find than client developers.

Best,
Goffi

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