Possibly everyone (including me) forgot about these, but I've now
remembered and have asked for approval from Board and Council.

Consider this a last call of sorts!

Dave.


On Tue, 24 Dec 2024, 12:58 Dave Cridland, <[email protected]> wrote:

> More Boring!
>
> * Added Goffi's excellent advice that non-editorial changes don't need
> Author permission.
> * New PR against XEP-0143: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1412 (Aside:
> Why is the Approving Body Council here?)
> * Again, many thanks to Goffi for pointing out the website needs a change
> too: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/1466
>
> I believe these are "complete" at this point.
>
> However, I'd prefer community feedback before formally submitting them to
> the Approving Bodies.
>
> Dave.
>
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey hey,
>>
>> Boring incoming:
>>
>> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1407
>>
>> This is draft to avoid the XSF Board accidentally approving it before the
>> community has had a chance to discuss.
>>
>> The main change is the paragraph added in Section 6 (Discussion Process),
>> covering changes to the XEP during Experimental:
>>
>> The XEP author incorporates the feedback by creating source control
>>> patches (such as Pull Requests), in line with the preferred method in
>>> &xep0143;. Direct changes to an Experimental XEP, such as a contributor
>>> providing a patch (or Pull Request on GitHub), are still the responsibility
>>> of the XEP author, and are only applied if the XEP author agrees. If a XEP
>>> has multiple authors, while agreement is sought from all authors, only
>>> those opinions from responsive authors are considered. If the Approving
>>> Body feels that the XEP author is not responsive, another author may be
>>> added unilaterally by the Approving Body.
>>
>>
>> This is trying to do two things:
>>
>> 1) Document the existing practice that the XMPP Council has followed,
>> whereby changes to Experimental XEPs need "agreement" (PR approval, or
>> similar) from the XEP Author.
>>
>> 2) Document the existing practice that the XMPP Council has followed.
>> whereby if a XEP Author isn't responsive (ie, doesn't respond to emails,
>> etc) the XMPP Council can add a new XEP Author.
>>
>> 3) Document the *new practice* that if a contribution isn't a PR, it's
>> the XEP Author who is responsible to turn it into one.
>>
>> The rest of the changes surface and restate existing process/policy/URLs
>> and aren't that interesting (well, even less interesting).
>>
>> There is one additional possible process deviation we should document (or
>> call the Process Police out, or something). Submission of a XEP, as per
>> XEP-0143, occurs via email tot he Editor. Is this really still the case? Or
>> are these now by PR? That'll need changing in XEP-0143, which I'm happy to
>> do if that's the case. It'd be nice to have a non-PR variant of the process
>> (post here?)
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
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