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INTELEKTUALNI DVOBOJ NEUSTRASIVOG I NEPOBJEDIVOG NEBOJSE SA NEKIM LJEVAKOM STIVENOM, NA SAMOM KRAJU SVIJETA, NA DALEKOM NOVOM ZELANDU

Ugledni i visetirazni novozelandski nedeljnik Sunday Star-Times objavio je prije sedam dana (21. jula 2001) komentar jednog svog citaoca (Steven Fay), u rubrici "Sunday Star-Times Oppinon", u kojem se taj nikogovic Stiven, iz skoro zadnjeg naseljenog mjesta na svijetu (Dunedine), poznatom samo po redovnom shegovanju ovaca, na vrlo neprikladan nacin izrazava o navodnom etnickom ciscenju jugoslovenskih ambasada i sluzbenih prostorija u inostranstvu od strane biveg predsjednika Jugoslavije i sadasnjeg najpoznatijeg politickog zatvorenika na svijetu Slobodana Milosevica.

Povod za Stivenov komentar je bila diskusija koja se ovih dana rasplamsala po novozelandskoj stampi oko slanja cetvorice maorskih svestenika/vraceva na otvorenje novozelandske ambasade u Bangkoku da osvete prostorije i iztjeraju zle duhove. Zvuci poznato, zar ne? (vidi primjere ove diskusije na kraju teksta, vrlo primjenjive i na nas nedavni slucaj u Vasingtonu).

Evo tog kratkog kometara Stivena Feja iz Danidina:

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CLEANSED: New Zealand has a team of Maori elders who fly around the world to "spiritually cleanse" embassies and offices. In the United States, the concern has always been that they be "cleansed" of electronic snooping devices.

Gauging by the actions at The Hague and the trial of Slobodan Milosevic, one might assume that he was concerned neither with the spiritual purity nor the security of Yugoslav embassies and offices abroad so long as they were "ethnically cleansed".

Steven Fay
Dunedin

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Prevod Stivenovog teksta na srpski: 

OCISCENI: Novi Zeland ima tim maorskih vraceva koji lete oko svijeta da "duhovno prociste" ambasade i kancelarije. U Sjedinjanim Americkim Drzavama naglasak je uvijek bio na tome da navedene prostorije trebaju biti "ociscene" od elektronskih prislusnih uredjaja.

Sudeci po akcijama u Hagu i sudjenju Slobodanu Milosevicu, moze se predpostaviti da on nije brinuo za duhovnu cistocu ili bezbjednost jugoslovenskih mabasada i sluzbenih prostorija u inostranstvu sve dok su one bile "etnicki ociscene".

Stiven Fej
Danedin

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Zabezeknut Stivenovom drskoscu i njegovim sarlatanskim izvlacenjem nemoguceg zakljucka o navodnom "etnickom ciscenju jugoslovenskih mabasada" (!?) iz kratkotrajne pojave Milosevica pred tribunalom u Hagu (kao da vec nema dovoljno optuzbi protiv ovog jadnika i bez ove besmislene) odlucio sam se da stupim u akciju. Proslijedio sam Stivenov komentar na brojne adrese mojih internet prijatelja trazeci savjet kako da reagujem. Neki su mi promptno odgovorili saljuci korisne komentare o stanju u jugoslovenskoj diplomatiji dok je bilo i takvih koji su mi samo nonsalantno porucili da se manem corava posla i pustim da "Drina tece kud je dosad tekla...".  Ipak, zahvaljujem se i jednim i drugim

Buduci da sam iz plemena tvrdoglavih bosanskih Srba nisam poslusao ove zadnje nego sam zajedno sa mojom vjernom saradnicom - teksasankom Sonjom Myers (strasna kaubojka za koju se ne zna dal' bolje puca il' u zdrav mozak nase dusmane tuca) pripremio moj odgovor Stivenu, koji je, uz minimalne gramaticke korekcije i njihovo ubacivanje vrlo provokativnog naslova "NO CLEANSING", objavljen u jucerasnjem izdanju Sunday Star-Times (29. juli 2001).

Evo tog odgovora Stivu Feju za koji predpostavljam da se mnogima nece svidjeti (a mnogim, do kojih je meni stalo, mozda i hoce):


NO CLEANSING: Steven Fay's obnoxious letter(July 22 was a testament to ignorance.
  Yugoslavia is still the most multi-ethnic state in the Balkans, whose embassies were staffed by its constituent people of various ethnicity, during Mr. Milosevic and after his removal by NATO servants.

  Mr. Milosevic is not charged with "ethnic cleansing" but the United States - along with some other countries - including ours - with the longest experience in such skills with native Indians and Maori, should be.

  While failing to address matters close to home, such as lack of Maori and/or Pacific Island staff in our embassies, businesses or government bodies, Fay has quite unintentionally highlighted few interesting points.

  Mr. Milosevic must be quite a man. Under his leadership, Yugoslavia was a country with no "bad-spirits" or "listening devices" to have to clean or fear from. His government did not plan or participate in covert actions or bombing raids against other sovereign countries, leaders or nations. Instead, it did all it could to protect Yugoslavia and its peoples'  sovereignty.

  Despite his failed political judgments, Mr. Milosevic was quite a leader - the last defender of socialism and opponent of the "New World Order's" brutally aggressive policies in the Balkans.

Nebojsa Joveljic
Papakura

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Prevod na srpski mog odgovora Stivenu:

NIJE BILO CISCENJA: Ogavno pismo Stivena Feja, objavljeno 22 jula, je pravi testament ignorantnosti. Jugoslavija je jos uvijek najmnogonacionalnija zemlja na Balkanu, cije ambasade su bile popunjene sa njenim konstitutivnim gradjanima razlicitog etniciteta, za vrijeme Slobodana Milosevica,  i nakon njegovog uklanjanja od strane Nato sluga.

Milosevic nije optuzen za "etnicko ciscenje" ali Sjedinjene Americke Drzave - zajedno sa nekim drugim zemljama, ukljucujuci i nasu - sa dugim iskustvom u takvim vjestinama primjenjenim na domoroce Indijance i Maore, bi trebale biti optuzene.

Dok je Fej propustio da ukaze na stvari bliske nasem domu, kao nedostatak Maora i/ili stanovnika sa Pacifickih ostrva u nasim ambasadama, poslovnim ili drzavnim tijelima, sasvim nenamjerno je osvijetlio nekoliko interesantnih tacaka.

Milosevic mora de je bio sila od covjeka. Pod njegovim rukovodstvom, Jugoslavija je bila zemlja bez "zlih duhova" ili "prislusnih sredstava" koje je trebalo ocistiti ili ih se bojati. Njegova vlada nije planirala ili ucestvovala u tajnim akcijama ili bombardiranju drugih suverenih zemalja, lidera ili nacija. Umjesto toga, on je ucinio sve sto je mogao da zastiti Jugoslaviju i suverenitet njenih ljudi.

Uprkos nekim promasajima u politickim procjenama, Milosevic je bio izuzetan lider - posljednji branilac socijalizma i protivnik brutalne politike Novog Svjetskog Poretka na Balkanu.

Nebojsa Joveljic,
Papakura

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NB. Ja sam u mojoj poruci editoru ukljucio i sljedecu poruku popracenu tekstom optuznice protiv SM na engleskom. Iako sam demantovao da je SM optuzen za etnicko ciscenje ja ne sumnjam da ce mu i to prikaciti samo dok nadju nacin kako da prevazidju cinjenicu da je prakticno uspio ocistiti samo Srbe iz Hrvatske, Bosne i Kosova, i prebaciti ih u brojne izbjeglicke kampove po Srbiju.


PS: Personal message to the Editor

For your information Mr. Milosevic is charged with: "Crimes against humanity
and crimes against war law and customs." Nowhere in the indictment has
the term "ethnic cleansing" been used.

Respectfully

Nebojsa Joveljic


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Ja eto rekoh svoje, pa sta bude da bude. Ako me ne ucmekaju ekstremisti "nase gore list" ili novozelandski i americki "red necks", pa moradnem samo bjezat iz ove zemlje (nece mi biti prvi put), ja se nadam da ce mi neki od vas, mojih dragih i brojnih internet prijatelja, ponuditi smjestaj za mene i moju familiju (zena i dvoje djece) dok ova frtutma ne prodje za jedno godinu dvije dana.


Za vas koji se zelite ukljuciti u diskusiju, demantujuci Stiva ili mene (zasto da ne) evo instrukcije za dostavljanje pisama editoru Sunday Star-Times:

Write to: the editor, Sunday Star-Times, Box 1409, Auckland, or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Do not exceed 200 words. Letters may be edited. Give full address and telephone number; no noms de plume.


Ako budete uspjesni u pisanju vaseg komntara jos bi mogli biti nagradjeni  jednim vrijednim penkalom (Each week the writer of the best original letter, chosen by the editor, wins a Waterman Apostrophe writing instrument.)

Bicu zahvalan i onima koji mi budu dostavili municiju za obracun koji slijedi nakon reakcija na moj komentar koje ce u istom listu neminovno uslijediti sljedece nedelje (prije svega podaci o nacionalnom sastavu jugoslovenskih diplomatskih tijela prije i poslije kidnapovanja Milosevica, a moze i bilo sta drugo sto ide u korist mojim izrecenim tvrdnjama).


Pozdrav svima - postenim i dosovcima,
Nebojsa Joveljic
(Papakura, Auckland)



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Primjeri debate, iz jucerasnje stampe, koja je ponukala Stiva da napise svoje pismo, i koja, kuku nama,  dosta podsjeca na nasu sadasnju debatu o osvecivanju Jugoslovenske ambasade u Vasingtonu:


Weekend Herald, Saturday - Sunday, July 28 - 29, 2001
Opinion & Letters

Maori exorcisms

Riveting. We now learn that our globetrotting witch-doctors have booked their tickets for Brazil in November. It seems we have another off-shore Government office where nothing will open or shut without first being "spiritually cleansed' by the medieval mutterings of Maori elders.

One expected Rodney Hide's exposure of the recent trickery in Thailand to so acutely embarrass Government agencies that fund-ing for future flights of fantasy would be swiftly pulled. Instead, all we got was righteous indignation from officials and thinly veiled messages from Maori that this sorcery stuff really does work.

Perhaps these people could their services to the pizza-munching Muslim from Hastings. If they are capable of spiritually cleansing bricks and mortar then, surely they would be untroubled in making bacon evaporate from a vegetarian pizza. One word in Rodney Hide's expose best sums up both the practice, and the thinking of those involved: "primitive."

Peter Bullick
Mt Maunganui


We are in the year 2001 and four Maori chiefs travel to Thailand to purge negative spirits from New Zealand Government offices - all at the taxpayer's expense. If it's a spiritual trip, how do they know there are any disagreeable spirits there? And if by chance there are, such spirits would (pre-sumably) be of Thai origin and wouldn't have the foggiest idea what the Maori were on about.

On the other hand, if it is a cultural trip (as we have been assured), how culturally sensitive is it to go to a foreign land whose people area lot more observant of spiritual entities than the average Maori would ever be - and put into practice some strange heathen exorcism all In the name of promoting cultural relations?

Rodney Hide is right: spending $8195 (plus meal allowances) on such superstitious nonsense is a diabolical waste of public money, particularly when it could be put to better use.

Sierra Tizard
Herne Bay.



 

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