Dear Paul

I guess that what I was trying to suggest in a simple way is that you are not 
dealing with a simple problem. What you are dealing with is 
"3 dimensional unsteady state heat transfer through beds of irregularly sized  
broken solids, with irregular shape factors, changing size, and changing state."

Best wishes,

Kevin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Olivier 
  To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Stoves] corn cobs and char?


  Kevin,


  Note that I used the phrase "sufficiently uniform". I have experimented with 
several forms of loose biomass in no way as uniform as rice hulls, such as 
coffee husks. Some work quite nicely.


  But I would not venture a guess about the wooden spheres you describe.

  I like to see a certain resistance to air or gas flow.

  We can't say much until we run tests.



  Thanks.

  Paul




  On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:

    Dear Paul
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Paul Olivier 
      To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves 
      Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [Stoves] corn cobs and char?


      Ron,


      In a TLUD it's all about the uniformity of air flow. 
      If corn cobs were cut to the same length, they just might be sufficiently 
uniform.

      # I think it is a bit more complex that "unifiorm length." With a given 
species of fuel, I think it is more a relation of relative size (that would 
determine pressure drop and uniformity of flow across the fuel bed), and 
surface area and diameter of the fuel particle. (That will have a large impact 
on fuel burning characteristics.) 

      For example, consider a TLUD running on wood spheres of say 1/4" 
daimeter, and 1" diameter. Such stoves would have quite different operating 
characteristics.

      Best wishes,

      Kevin





      Thanks.


      Paul Olivier




      On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Ronal W. Larson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        List:

           Anyone have any data on using corn cobs in char-making stoves?  The 
supply would seem to be large and likely low cost..

        Ron
        _______________________________________________
        Stoves mailing list

        to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
        [email protected]

        to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
        
http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org

        for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
        http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/





      -- 
      Paul A. Olivier PhD
      26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
      Dalat
      Vietnam

      Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
      Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
      Skype address: Xpolivier
      http://www.esrla.com/ 


--------------------------------------------------------------------------


      _______________________________________________
      Stoves mailing list

      to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
      [email protected]

      to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
      
http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org

      for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
      http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/




    _______________________________________________
    Stoves mailing list

    to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
    [email protected]

    to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
    
http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org

    for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
    http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/






  -- 
  Paul A. Olivier PhD
  26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
  Dalat
  Vietnam

  Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
  Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
  Skype address: Xpolivier
  http://www.esrla.com/ 


------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  _______________________________________________
  Stoves mailing list

  to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
  [email protected]

  to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
  
http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org

  for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
  http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/

_______________________________________________
Stoves mailing list

to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
[email protected]

to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org

for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/

Reply via email to