Another New York Times article relating to climate change: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/the-new-nuclear-craze/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130824&_r=0
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Paul Olivier <[email protected]>wrote: > AJ, > > You write: > *Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary > reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on > [stoves] by others. > > Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic. > > * > I am not trying to goad the bull. When I insert quoted texts, this is a > way of underlining important points that the author is making. Surely this > cannot be controversial. I was staying on-topic: the topic was climate > change.* *I see no problem discussing policy issues as long as people > remain polite and civil.* *Using language such as "nonsense" to describe > the position of someone with a different view point of view is totally out > of place. It is hard to imagine that environmental issues do not impact the > way we design stoves. Let me give an example in the reverse sense. > > Suppose that I believe that human activity has nothing to do with climate > change, global warming and ocean acidification, and that biochar does not > enhance plant growth, reduce water and fertilizer use, and lock away carbon > into the soil. These beliefs, no doubt, will influence my approach to stove > design. Based on these beliefs, why should I not design a TLUD that is > optimized to burn up all the char that it produces? Or I might even design > a second stove optimized for the burning char, and this second stove would > be ideal for the slow simmering of food. Later after all of this design > effort, I begin describing the details of these new designs to the stove > list. But I become so dismayed to find out that some people on the list do > believe in climate change and the benefits of biochar. Some even go so far > as to label my beliefs as nonsensical, and then I begin to doubt myself. > Perhaps all of the effort I made in coming up with these new designs was a > waste of time. So I then call upon the stove list to begin discussing the > policy and beliefs that underline stove design. As long as the members of > the stove list treat one another with respect, why not? > > Many thanks. > Paul Olivier > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:37 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> [Default] On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:59:48 +0700,Paul Olivier >> <[email protected]> wrote one line of text and quoted a whole >> digest again: >> >> >> Paul, apart from goading the bull you consistently include unnecessary >> reams of quoted text with your posts. This has not been commented on >> [stoves] by others. >> >> Please snip superfluous content and try to stay on topic. >> >> AJH >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Stoves mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> > > > -- > Paul A. Olivier PhD > 26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong > Dalat > Vietnam > > Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam) > Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam) > Skype address: Xpolivier > http://www.esrla.com/ > -- Paul A. Olivier PhD 26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong Dalat Vietnam Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam) Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam) Skype address: Xpolivier http://www.esrla.com/
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