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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Another thing on free markets.  Free markets work when
> they are allowed to work.

Any economic system will "work" when allowed to do so unencumbered by
colonialist intrusion and ideological trade embargoes.

> Policies such as minimum
> wage laws, rent controls and union activity disrupt
> the natural tendency of markets to balance.

Minimum wage laws are the sop thrown to workers by the Democrats to make up
for the grossly oppressive Federal Reserve fiscal policy that keeps wages
low by restricting the market forces as they are allowed to apply to the
labor market.

"Union activity" is natural outgrowth of the fundamental right of workers to
sell their labor at the highest price--a fundamental right that Federal
government routinely tramples as a matter of fiscal and executive policy and
you otherwise rabid free-marketeers continue to turn a blind eye to.  None
of you has managed to formulate a response to this monumental hypocrisy.

> As for workers at Walmart.  no one is forcing them to
> work there.  Walmart is able to pay the wage it does
> because there is an ample number of people willing to
> work for that wage.  If you don't like the $8 an hour
> or whatever it is they pay, go to mcdonalds and get
> $8.25.  The mobility of workers plays a large part in
> earning potential.

I'll say it once again just to underscore the fact the free-market utopian
ideologues that subscribe here are completely at a loss to reply:  workers
turn to WalMart, and worse employment situations, because their aren't
enough jobs to go around.  The Federal government flagrantly and
intentionally oppresses wages by bludgeoning the economy with interest rate
increases each and every time the demand for labor threatens to outpace
supply.  Full employment is not just undesirable as a goal in this State
Capitalist system, it is simply not an option and will not be permitted.  In
the interest of corporate capitalism, the Federal government cannot allow
full employment, or even low unemployment, to occur.

> If you really want to increase wages, slow the inflow
> of illegal immigrants who work for little because it
> is still twice they could get from the country they
> came from.

It might serve your racist belief system to blame foreign workers for
something you won't even admit is a problem, but the minute the number of
available jobs surpasses the number of available workers *for whatever
reason* <BLAMMO> interest rate increase after increase until unemployment
increases by simple, heavy-handed oppression of the overall economy.

WalMart is an oppressive intruder and takes every advantage of governmental
restriction on the free market of labor while local ideologues routinely
apologize for their intrusion.  It exerts downward pressure on wages, on
workplace dignity, and on the quality of our GDP.  This insidious influence
is documented fact in other communities WalMart has been allowed to infect
and there's no reason to believe that the intrusion won't have the same
negative effects on the economic life of St. Paul.  Apologize for them while
pretending to dislike them all you want.

Guy Western
the West Side

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