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While I did not attend Kelly's press conference, I could have sworn that I
read he said "property taxes were held flat," when in fact ours went up
10.3%.  No doubt this is due to County tax hikes and the maximum increase
of our Taxable Market Value, but when I look at my on-line 2004 Property
Tax Statement  (http://rrinfo.co.ramsey.mn.us/index.asp) , I see that

      Line 8, City or Town - St. Paul, rose 7%
      and
      Line 10b, School District, Other Local Levies, rose 26%.

Now, I don't fully understand these statements, and could never understand
why under "Where Your Property Taxes Go" it does not list Police, Fire,
Street Repair, and other things we generally associate with taxes, but
clearly our taxes did go up.  I don't really mind, but I don't understand
why the Mayor would say they did not.  I'd hate to think he is a liar, or
taking someone else's credit.

Can anyone clarify his comments for him, since he obviously has more
important things to do than join us here once in a while?  And what is the
status of the 1/2 cent tax?  What is it being spent on and for how much
longer?

A tangent:  if I spend $200 a month in local bars, restaurants, and cafe's,
and there were a 3% stadium tax imposed, I would pay $72 in new taxes per
year.  In protest, I would not spend $2400 locally.  But if Carl "We Don't
Need No Stinking Streetcars" Pohlad or any of his athletic supporters would
pay my $72 for me, I'd be back out there wining and dining and stimulating
the economy on non-game nights.  (If binge-drinking is bad for the
individual, isn't it bad for the community, too?)

And people need to realize that there's a difference between not wanting a
stadium in St. Paul and not wanting a stadium in downtown St. Paul
(regardless of funding).


AMH
West End
(Best End)


"You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all love to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead."


Andrew M. Hine
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Did anyone here attend the State of the City address?

Care to share your thoughts?

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Kelly touts St. Paul's progress
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/8315600.htm
BY TIM NELSON

"St. Paul has weathered some of the roughest financial waters in its
history and already is turning with the wind, Mayor Randy Kelly said
Tuesday in his third state of the city address."

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Tim Erickson
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