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Tim -
I think it would be great if you ran. A couple of
suggestions. Learn about the commitment required
should you win. Note that, even if you don't win, you
will learn a lot about the process - which could make
you even better prepared for next time. Worst case
scenario - you might become an even better citizen.
-David Stein
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Como Planetarium (Guy Western)
> 2. Re: Apology - Mistaken "from" line (brian
> bates)
> 3. Mac Groveland Annual Meeting (Tim Erickson)
> 4. Should I Run or Not? (Tim Erickson)
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> 6. Re: Fletcher: Case Closed?
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:52:18 -0500
> From: "Guy Western" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [StPaul] Como Planetarium
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> It sure doesn't take much of a drop in the polls to
> turn the usual sarcasm
> so bitter as to be completely incoherent.
>
> Guy Western
> the West Side
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Swift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tim Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "St. Paul
> Issues Forum"
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> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [StPaul] Como Planetarium
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> > Tim Says that:
> >
> > "Everyone on this list could come up with program
> that
> > they think should be cut in favor of the
> Planetarium
> > and justify their case."
> >
> > The Planetarium closing is nothing more than a
> single
> > example of a very well entrenched set of
> ideologically
> > driven priorities that have little to nothing to
> do
> > with academic education Tim. You're exactly right
> in
> > your assertion, there are more than enough such
> > programs and policy directives in our district for
> > everyone to claim one for their own!
> >
> > Remember when the district voted to cut the
> > transportation budget, and then voted to put
> "teeth"
> > (Al Oertwig's words) a policy in place meant to
> help
> > guarantee that the bus companies would become
> > unionized despite two failed attempts? In what way
> > does that help the students?
> >
> > Or how about what happened in the wake of Dr.
> Harvey's
> > attempts to apply some genuine accountability into
> the
> > schools? Read the paper lately? SPPS's already
> dismal
> > record of neglect to our minority students has
> taken
> > another downturn under the direction of the
> board's
> > three AFT mascots with nary a word about what is
> > actually happening in the schools.
> >
> > And Tim's use of the district's all time favorite
> > boiler plate "it's too complicated for you to
> > understand" obfuscation fails to address the
> facts, as
> > always. Sure, there is always some "Latino
> Outreach"
> > type smoke and mirrors to accompany any
> questionable
> > use of the district's resources but it doesn't
> take
> > much to clear the air.
> >
> > While GLSEN and it's allies have threatened their
> way
> > into many schools, other schools have recently
> begun
> > to fight and win against their coercions. In any
> case,
> > nowhere is it written that any district must set
> up a
> > separate department complete with it's own office
> > building and permanent staff to implement a
> > homosexual-centered curriculum to the exclusion of
> all
> > other victims of intolerance or school-yard
> bullying.
> >
> > I'm still waiting for Anne to inform us of the
> correct
> > cost..I've got a bet that it is actually closer to
> > $150k a year now.
> >
> > In no state or federal document will you find a
> > mandate to dispense birth control medical services
> > within the schools to the tune of better than
> $275k
> > per year.
> >
> > I also failed to find the directive mandating a
> $180K
> > legislative lobbyist anywhere in "No Child Left
> > Behind".
> >
> > I could go on for quite some time in pointing out
> > instances where the district board has put it's
> > politics ahead of the students' welfare, but I'm
> well
> > aware that the bulk of this forum's participants
> are
> > very pleased with the direction that the district
> is
> > heading.
> >
> > So be it!
> >
> > Just do the rest of us the courtesy of averting
> your
> > eyes a bit while you claim to worry so deeply "for
> the
> > children".
> >
> > TJSwift
> > Cherokee Park
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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