[My neighbor grows more food in his back yard and gives over 80% of it away! Because he ALWAYS has much, much more that he and his family can use. B/t/w �he has a 10x20 foot garden and he grows EVERYTHING back there, right in the heart of the city.
You either don't know how to garden or you�re a republican.]
Last year I had an excess of tomatoes, apples, chives, peppers, basil, dill, and mint. I traded with my neighbors for plums and cucumbers, made and froze salsa, made and stored applesauce, collected and dried the dill, carried some stuff to work and gave it away, and let the rest waste. So what? Did I grow enough excess to feed me for the next year? No. Not even close. Much less feed myself, husband and child. It's quite normal to have more than you can eat before the food spoils. When crops bear fruit, they tend to do it all at once. Just because there's a lot extra, say even a month of extra food, does not mean there's a year's worth of extra. I don't think you understand the scale of what you're discussing.
[Stay on the subject. Whose talking about chickens???? Do you have a some sort of a weird "chicken fetish"? ]
The subject being whether or not a person could conceivably handle and grow all the food they eat, without a radical change to our culture and lifestyle. Many of us eat chickens. Thus, if someone wishes to handle and grow all the food they eat, then they will have to handle and grow chickens.
[If you eat right, you probably won't get sick, but if you do, that's what you got neighbors and the U.S. Government for.]
I see. I suppose all those people who have died of plague, influenza, pox, dysentery and various other maladies over the centuries were all simply not eating right. If you rely upon your neighbors or the US Government to take care of your foodstocks when you are sick, then you are not handling or growing all the food you eat. Your initial post about this subject was explicit that ANYONE other than yourself who handles or grows your food is a "butt-scratching profit pimp". Thus, you can not allow your neighbors to handle or grow your food, sick or not. At least, not without conceding that sometimes circumstances exist that justifies other people growing and handling your food.
[Malnutrition is natural?]
Yes, it is. It is perfectly natural to die of malnutrition when your environment does not supply a vital nutrient to your body.
[If McD's is good, I would want to know if Mrs. Croc eats her 3 squares at one everyday. I would bet you all the money in you pocket, that she doesn't. ]
Stay on the topic. This discussion has nothing to do with McDonalds. It has to do with the feasibility of each and every individual in St. Paul to handle, grow and prepare their own food. If Mrs. Croc lives in St. Paul, then I'll concede that her eating habits might be germaine.
[Do you understand that you are brainwashed into believing that (there is a link between working and getting an income)?]
No, I don't think I'm brainwashed to believing that. I know that if I want to get something done - say, get my front step fixed, then I'm going to have to pay someone to do it if I don't do it myself. If someone comes by and offers to do it, then does not do any work and my front step is still screwed up, then I'm not going to pay them. There's a very direct link between paying someone for a task and the performance of that task.
[If you need two acres, you should meet my neighbor. If he used his just HALF of his OWN BACKYARD, he could feed the entire block! If he's unable to do the work, because of broken leg, one of the neighbors comes over a helps out. Imagine what he could do if this was his full time endeavor?]
I notice that your vaunted neighbor does not handle and grow his food himself when he gets a broken leg. I suppose that makes his helpful neighbor a butt-scratching profit pimp.
The rest of your post I'm going to skip responding to, since for the most part it's off topic.
Mary Baker East Side
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